[governance] [bestbits] February 19-20 open consultation and MAG meeting

Wed Jan 29 17:31:00 EST 2014

Before we are too hard on Turkey they should be commended on accepting
refugees from Syria:

   - 199, 658 being Camp population count in June 2013
   - 182,049 being non Camp population in June 2013

Total Syrian Refugee Count as at June 2013 globally is 1,658,177
Source: US State Department, US Agency for International Development,
UNOCHA, UNHCR

Aside from the Protest that took place in May 2013 in Turkey, this should
not dampen the possibility of having an IGF there unless otherwise
indicated by the host. When we complain about slight inconvenience when
there are thousands of displaced persons who suffer daily from the loss of
a family member and destruction to their communities, for some reason it
just seems trivial especially if what is being debated and objected to is
"vacation time".

I mean like "seriously" "what the funny?"

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:

> If I am correct, the upcoming IGF is in Turkey, I think the political
> situation might stay a bit volatile and the IGF may actually face some
> delays unfortunately if unrest erupts again.
>
> Best Regards
> Fouad Bajwa
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> On Jan 29, 2014, at 3:17 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I just checked with Chengetai. Paul's explanation is correct and the
> website will be updated.
> >
> > BTW, what the IGF website doesn't show is that the host government has
> expressed a desire to move the meeting forward to 19-22 August.  Sticking
> it during high vacation season in the Northern hemisphere would not be good
> for turn-out, which in turn would not be good for the UN renewal debate
> when the usual long knives may be out. It also would be a real problem for
> the preparatory process, and apparently for national/regional IGFs.  Markus
> has sent a letter to DESA on behalf of concerned MAG members asking that
> the UN reaffirm to the host its preference for the original deal.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Jan 29, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Paul Wilson <pwilson at apnic.net> wrote:
> >
> >> My understanding is that there is one meeting, an open MAG meeting,
> which is being held on 19-20 February.
> >>
> >> The past model of an open consultation followed by a closed meeting has
> been dropped, giving us a single, 2-day open meeting.
> >>
> >> Of course the conduct and chairing need to be inclusive, but I hope
> that this new model helps to overcome perceptions that MAG members are
> "indifferent to their stakeholders".
> >>
> >> Paul.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 29/01/2014, at 4:32 PM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Could our civil society MAG members confirm the dates of the meeting.
>  The IGF website: 19-22 February 2014 (Wednesday to Saturday).  Is that
> correct?  Or are the dates  Feb 19 = open consultation.  Feb 20 = MAG
> meeting?
> >>>
> >>> The last few meetings have been dominated by the MAG, little
> consideration given to the "consultation" part.
> >>>
> >>> Discussion on te MAG list now -- see archives <
> http://mail.intgovforum.org/pipermail/igfmaglist_intgovforum.org/> --
> suggests the same pattern.  A lot of excitement about topics that must be
> discussed, etc, etc.  My understanding of the purpose of these meetings is
> for the MAG to listen, at least for one day.  MAG is not an executive, it's
> there to listen to stakeholder input and reflect that in the agenda of the
> IGF.  And this is made harder by what is perhaps indifference of MAG
> members to encouraging contributions from their stakeholders, at least on
> the IGC and bestbits lists.  All have just been reappointed for the
> linkages they bring to their communities.
> >>>
> >>> The MAG now holds regular teleconferences.  Could MAG members inform
> us when these meetings are taking place, share the agenda and seek comments.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Adam
> >>>
> >>>
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