<div dir="ltr">Before we are too hard on Turkey they should be commended on accepting refugees from Syria:<div><ul><li>199, 658 being Camp population count in June 2013</li><li>182,049 being non Camp population in June 2013</li>
</ul><div>Total Syrian Refugee Count as at June 2013 globally is 1,658,177</div><div>Source: US State Department, US Agency for International Development, UNOCHA, UNHCR</div></div><div><br></div><div>Aside from the Protest that took place in May 2013 in Turkey, this should not dampen the possibility of having an IGF there unless otherwise indicated by the host. When we complain about slight inconvenience when there are thousands of displaced persons who suffer daily from the loss of a family member and destruction to their communities, for some reason it just seems trivial especially if what is being debated and objected to is "vacation time".</div>
<div><br></div><div>I mean like "seriously" "what the funny?"</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Fouad Bajwa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com" target="_blank">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If I am correct, the upcoming IGF is in Turkey, I think the political situation might stay a bit volatile and the IGF may actually face some delays unfortunately if unrest erupts again.<br>
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On Jan 29, 2014, at 3:17 PM, William Drake <<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi<br>
><br>
> I just checked with Chengetai. Paul’s explanation is correct and the website will be updated.<br>
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> BTW, what the IGF website doesn’t show is that the host government has expressed a desire to move the meeting forward to 19-22 August. Sticking it during high vacation season in the Northern hemisphere would not be good for turn-out, which in turn would not be good for the UN renewal debate when the usual long knives may be out. It also would be a real problem for the preparatory process, and apparently for national/regional IGFs. Markus has sent a letter to DESA on behalf of concerned MAG members asking that the UN reaffirm to the host its preference for the original deal.<br>
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> Best<br>
><br>
> Bill<br>
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> On Jan 29, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Paul Wilson <<a href="mailto:pwilson@apnic.net">pwilson@apnic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> My understanding is that there is one meeting, an open MAG meeting, which is being held on 19-20 February.<br>
>><br>
>> The past model of an open consultation followed by a closed meeting has been dropped, giving us a single, 2-day open meeting.<br>
>><br>
>> Of course the conduct and chairing need to be inclusive, but I hope that this new model helps to overcome perceptions that MAG members are "indifferent to their stakeholders".<br>
>><br>
>> Paul.<br>
>><br>
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>><br>
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>> On 29/01/2014, at 4:32 PM, Adam Peake <<a href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> Could our civil society MAG members confirm the dates of the meeting. The IGF website: 19-22 February 2014 (Wednesday to Saturday). Is that correct? Or are the dates Feb 19 = open consultation. Feb 20 = MAG meeting?<br>
>>><br>
>>> The last few meetings have been dominated by the MAG, little consideration given to the "consultation" part.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Discussion on te MAG list now -- see archives <<a href="http://mail.intgovforum.org/pipermail/igfmaglist_intgovforum.org/" target="_blank">http://mail.intgovforum.org/pipermail/igfmaglist_intgovforum.org/</a>> -- suggests the same pattern. A lot of excitement about topics that must be discussed, etc, etc. My understanding of the purpose of these meetings is for the MAG to listen, at least for one day. MAG is not an executive, it's there to listen to stakeholder input and reflect that in the agenda of the IGF. And this is made harder by what is perhaps indifference of MAG members to encouraging contributions from their stakeholders, at least on the IGC and bestbits lists. All have just been reappointed for the linkages they bring to their communities.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The MAG now holds regular teleconferences. Could MAG members inform us when these meetings are taking place, share the agenda and seek comments.<br>
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>>> Thanks,<br>
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>>> Adam<br>
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