[governance] Nomination of Parminder

[michael gurstein]

I think I should be clearer in what I said/meant.

 

Suresh is a troll.  Whether or not he is being paid to disrupt this e-list
and harass and attempt to delegitimize Civil Society's most useful
contributor, Parminder, I have no idea and will probably never know. That he
and his harassment is being enabled by others on this list for purely
political reasons-McTim, Avri, others, is to my mind also quite transparent.

 

That this harassment is provoking and meant to be provoking is also quite
evident. having someone react to such behavior is not surprising-I would
almost certainly react in similar ways in similar circumstances as I guess
would most of you.

 

The stuff with Parminder is a passing episode and should be settled as such
by whatever means are available and immediately. 

 

The campaign by Suresh as aided and abetted by the others is continuing and
has significantly undermined the capacity of the IGC to move forward in
these very important times for the Internet.  Perhaps this was the intention
all along.  I don't know.  I think dealing with that requires resources and
capacities which sadly, are much beyond the IGC in its current form.

 

M 

 

From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
[mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of David Cake
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:59 PM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Jeremy Malcolm
Subject: Re: [governance] Nomination of Parminder

 

 

On 9 Jan 2014, at 1:13 pm, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:





On 09/01/14 11:55, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

Even without that, Parminder's explicit endorsement of multilateral
proposals including the CIRP, render him unfit to properly represent the
needs and interests of civil society.  This is enitrely separate from
personality clashes, and just as separate from his tendency to engage in
political maneuvring rather than collegial engagement with other
stakeholders.


Let he who is without sin cast the first stone Suresh... you won't deny that
you too have been cautioned over your behaviour towards other IGC members
(admittedly on the list, not in person). 

 

            If you think both Suresh and Parminder have behaved
inappropriately, then you should be against either of them being selected,
surely? If you believe both are in the wrong, so we should ignore it, that
sounds like a recipe for a continuing problematic culture that is explicitly
tolerant of bad behaviour. 

            I mean, given that even Parminder's supporters, such as Michael,
are still saying that he behaves inappropriately (just claim that maybe
other people are... well, not as bad, but not perfect either), there surely
is a serious problem, and deflecting criticism with 'he isn't the only one'
is no longer (if it ever was) appropriate. 

            I would appreciate an explanation from those, like yourself and
Michael, who (explicitly in Michaels case, implicitly in your case) admit
that Parminder's behaviour is inappropriate, but want to support him anyway.


            

            Regards

                        David





And to describe the CIRP as multilateral is an oversimplification, though
its original formulation did have significant problems (which should be no
surprise, it was a first draft).

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