[governance] Nomination of Parminder
Suresh Ramasubramanian
suresh at hserus.net
Wed Jan 8 22:55:49 EST 2014
Thank you, Daniel.
Let us say that, from my perspective, Avri is someone I know and trust for years before I was involved with this caucus. If she says she felt physically threatened by Parminder's behavior, I implicitly trust her statement. I am glad you agree with me there, from your email.
Also - please remember, I am from India, as is Parminder. And I hope I have exposure to multiple other cultures : mediterranean, european, australian (where 'you bastard' is a term of endearment among friends, or so a gross generalization says) etc, to recognize domineering behavior - which, carried beyond a certain extent, others may interpret as a physical threat - for what it is. In other words, I feel confident enough to discount cultural differences as a factor here.
McTim has extensive hands on ICT experience in Africa, and is, I think, as widely exposed to a cross cultural milieu as I am, if not more. I won't presume to speak for him about how or why he formed a conclusion on parminder's behavior at a forum that neither he nor I attended, but my informed guess is that his thought processes in doing so were similar to mine above.
Even without that, Parminder's explicit endorsement of multilateral proposals including the CIRP, render him unfit to properly represent the needs and interests of civil society. This is enitrely separate from personality clashes, and just as separate from his tendency to engage in political maneuvring rather than collegial engagement with other stakeholders.
Thanks
--srs (iPad)
> On 09-Jan-2014, at 8:41, Daniel Pimienta <pimienta at funredes.org> wrote:
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> This is getting quite personal now... Dont you think it is too much so?
> From Deirdre's report I get that neither Suresh nor Mc Tim were present in that event,
> so why are they reporting about it?
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> When I read:
>> He was then physically aggressive/threatening towards me (no contact, but i felt physically threatened).
> I must say that I totally trust this testimony: what people feels is an objective part of their own realm although it could be seen subjective from the outside.
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> However.
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> Just a highly probable hypothesis to try to put some calming to this personal situation.
> Cultures does matters. Difference of cultures makes a lot of ...difference.
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> I spent 2 years in assignment in the US back in 1984 (in the deep South), coming from my mediterranean culture.
> Every time I was getting anger (and in my culture we do not repress this state of mind, we just express our anger) I realized that some people around me felt physically threaten (in spite the fact I have never rised the hand to anybody and I am totally uncapable of any physical agression). It really impressed me a lot and obliged me, since i was living there, to try to adapt and change somehow behavior. I am not familiar with Indian culture but I wonder if we are not facing the same type of situation and my guess is that it is highly probable.
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> I do recommand the reading of US citizen author Edward T. Hall's "The hidden dimension" who brightly explained how cultural chocks create strange situatrons... and to cool down.
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> Conclusive question : are we supposed, on the top of being fluent in English, to embrace US culture in order to be allowed to participate in an IGF event?
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