[governance] Fwd: [cs-coord] Civil Society Speakers for IGF Closing Ceremony

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

A centre generally does exclude extreme opinions on either side of the political spectrum

Feel free to list them, but if you wish to proceed further than just a laundry list of statements, then working toward consensus - across stakeholder groups - becomes inevitable.

--srs (iPad)

> On 27-Aug-2014, at 14:41, Jean-Christophe Nothias <jeanchristophe.nothias at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, I don't know of any centrist- still a democrat - that could write (regarding the diversity of opinions and views in the IG debate) that some opinions should  "rightly" be excluded. You wrote that!
> 
> In Switzerland, in France, in many countries where Democracy is vivid, all opinions are there, and force people to consider them, even if they fundamentally disagree. I would add that in the US, anything can be expressed even the darkest most dangerous views, when, to the contrary, Europe regards some opinions as equivalent of  "incitation à la haine" and are therefore banned from the public space.
> 
> Now, who is asking for "consensus" in Istanbul? You forget a preliminary step. 
> 
> Can't we simply recognize the diversity of views and opinions, even list them if it helps. That would be a first good step and help everyone's reflection.
> 
> This is what happen in any democratic congress/parliament where all views are there. So instead of selling la pensée unique du parti unique, a great progress would be : let's assume these diverging opinions, and let's see where some convergence can be achieved. By excluding, rightly in your eyes, views you disagree with, you feed the distrust that has now fully contaminated the IG debate.
> 
> There is a moment for maturity in politics. I am waiting for Milton's decision.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Le 27 août 2014 à 10:42, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :
>> 
>> Jean-Christophe Nothias [27/08/14 10:31 +0200]:
>>> "...opinions are, rightly, excluded..."
>>> That must reflect on your highly democratic conception of an open debate.
>>> To exclude rightly is usually part of the extreme right parties narrative.
>>> Weren't you a multistakeholder equal footing blabla model advocate?
>> 
>> Let us put it this way - 
>> Personally, I am a centrist. I disagree with the extreme left just as much
>> as I do the extreme right.
>> 
>> In this case, I am a believer in a consensus, which in this case, forms a
>> bell curve from which the tail has, necessarily, to be excluded in order to
>> get a sense of what the vast majority of the group wants.
>> 
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