[governance] Fwd: [IP] Google's Gmail Keyword Scanning Might Violate Wiretap Law, Judge Finds

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Economics 101 for the difference between the two, McTim :)

Gurstein has a point, the free email market IS monopolistic in nature, but then again so are other commodity markets where effort is made to differentiate a product to justify its pricing in whatever form (ad supported ... paid for email, all the way to hamburgers, say)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopolistic_competition

--srs (iPad)

> On 29-Sep-2013, at 5:37, "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hmmm... FWIW, it is, shall we say somewhat questionable to ascribe the use of words to me that don't actually appear in what I wrote... (you might want to check out the difference for example between "monopoly" and "monopolistic behaviour" 
> 
> M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:42 PM
> To: michael gurstein
> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder
> Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: [IP] Google's Gmail Keyword Scanning Might Violate Wiretap Law, Judge Finds
> 
> Gmail saw 287.9 million unique worldwide visitors Microsoft's Hotmail, which finished with 286.2 million unique visitors.
> Yahoo, the once mighty e-mail power, with 281.7 million
> 
> This isn't even "dominance" (per the article), let alone "monopoly".
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:16 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Google (now) #1 free email service.
>> 
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57543177-93/gmail-edges-hotmail-as-wo
>> rlds-top-e-mail-service/
>> 
>> M
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:53 PM
>> To: michael gurstein
>> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: [IP] Google's Gmail Keyword Scanning 
>> Might Violate Wiretap Law, Judge Finds
>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 6:35 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think a lot of people are rather more anxious now than previously 
>>> with the "deal" that they signed up for with Gmail but the problem is 
>>> to find workable alternatives... Given their resources and 
>>> monopolistic behanviour (predatory pricing?) Gmail seem to have 
>>> pushed most of the possible althernative services out of the market (at least for the moment...
>> 
>> 
>> nonsense.  I Googled "free email", and got 10 alternatives on the first page alone...with Gmail coming in at #8 on the list.
>> 
>> 
>> Googling for "leading free email service" gives this result:
>> 
>> http://email.about.com/od/freeemailreviews/tp/free_email.htm
>> 
>> in which Gmail is listed as #1, this means that people like the service, not that there are no other options.
>> 
>> Monopoly is defined on Wikipedia as:
>> 
>> "A monopoly (from Greek monos μόνος (alone or single) + polein πωλεῖν (to sell)) exists when a specific person or enterprise is the only supplier of a particular commodity"
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly
>> 
>> This is not the case with any service from Google that I can think of.
>> 
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A 
>> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Cheers,
> 
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
> 
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