[governance] Fwd: [IP] Google's Gmail Keyword Scanning Might Violate Wiretap Law, Judge Finds

[michael gurstein]

I think a lot of people are rather more anxious now than previously with the
"deal" that they signed up for with Gmail but the problem is to find
workable alternatives... Given their resources and monopolistic behanviour
(predatory pricing?) Gmail seem to have pushed most of the possible
althernative services out of the market (at least for the moment...

M

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of McTim
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 6:55 PM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder
Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: [IP] Google's Gmail Keyword Scanning Might
Violate Wiretap Law, Judge Finds

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:14 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
wrote:
>
> On Friday 27 September 2013 03:58 PM, McTim wrote:
> SNIP
>
>> Is Google a "carrrier"? In Kansas City they are of course, but I 
>> doubt you will be able to persuade any judge that they are (outside
Google Fiber).
>
>
> Yes, an email application service provider is a carrier of private 
> emails, in the same sense as postal service is for snail mail. It 
> should be subject to rights and restrictions of a neutral carrier.

Maybe....if i paid them and didn't agree when I signed up that they could do
exactly that....but I don't pay them AND did agree to let them scan the
words in my emails.

 But while Google claims the
> rights of a carrier - in terms of claiming exemption from any 
> intermediary liability,


of course, because it is user-generated content.  Would you prefer that
intermediate liability be removed??


 they do not admit the corresponding restrictions, for instance,
> that they cannot look into private communication, and monetise 
> information thus collected.

see above, this is the deal you make with them.

--
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel



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