DMP} Re: [Final draft for final comments] Letter to Pres. Rousseff Re: [bestbits] [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN
Julian Casasbuenas G.
julian at colnodo.apc.org
Thu Sep 26 10:38:44 EDT 2013
We endorse the statement,
Julián Casasbuenas G.
Colnodo - Colombia
El 26/09/13 09:20, Joana Varon escribió:
> Changes made: http://bestbits.net/brazil-66-unga/
>
> Email to the current endorsee sent.
>
> This statement is officially totally completely closed now folks.
> Please, endorse! ;)
>
> Thanks for your pacience and commitment
>
> joana
>
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>
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> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com
> <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com>> wrote:
>
> Ok. so here is what we will do.
>
> 1) Item 4 will be changed to:
> "Reinforce our support for an extension into broader spheres of
> Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian
> multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led by CGI.br",
>
> 2) Jeremy and I will send an email noting it to all the people who
> already endorsed, noting this change and giving them the
> posibility to withdraw their support (which I think will be
> unlikely). Well, thats not the ideal process to do that. But, we
> will be happy to have ICG, APC, etc supporting the statement and
> more important, we got your points on the dangerous of the current
> version.
>
>
> OK????
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>
>
> +1 to Anja's point.
>
> with this change I will recommend that it be signed by IGC and
> groups I am a member of, and will sign it myself on the
> bestbits site
>
> From Carolina
> > Pls, Avri, refer to CA and my email
>
> But since
>
> > not that it will change at this point, but it would be good
> to be sure we have your language
>
> Not sure why we are still trying.
>
> Without a statement supporting a well formed multistakeholder
> model, I do not want to contribute to a statement that seems
> to me to approve the way Governments currently work.
>
> re:
>
> > "Reinforce our support for an extension into broader spheres
> of Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian
> multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led by CGI.br",
>
>
> Prefer the previous 4.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 26 Sep 2013, at 09:51, Anja Kovacs wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Not sure which version you mean, Norbert, but if it is the
> one in which point 4 starts as follows:
> >
> > "Reinforce our support for an extension into broader spheres
> of Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian
> multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led by CGI.br",
> >
> > My answer is yes, we would support that.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Anja
> >
> >
> > On 26 September 2013 19:15, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Yes, i would, I did, accept that, as it balances support to
> the Marco Civil with support for the multistakeholder governance.
> >
> > When 4 was dropped it put the emphasis on approving the
> process of the past as opposed to suggesting a way to improve
> in the future.
> >
> > That works for me.
> >
> > avri
> >
> > On 26 Sep 2013, at 09:25, Norbert Bollow wrote:
> >
> > > [with IGC coordinator hat on]
> > >
> > > Suppose the drafters of the letter were willing to
> backtrack to this
> > > version, would the IGC then be able to endorse the letter?
> > >
> > > Avri and Anja, do I understand correctly that your
> objections would
> > > be moot in this case?
> > >
> > > Parminder, are you firmly objecting to this version of
> point 4, or would
> > > the shortened version just have been strongly preferable
> from your
> > > perspective?
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Norbert
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> >
> >
> > >> Letter from International Civil Society Organizations to
> President
> > >> Dilma Rousseff in support of her statement at the 68th
> Session of the
> > >> UNGA
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Your Excellency,
> > >>
> > >> We, the undersigned organizations and individuals from
> around the
> > >> world, committed to the development of the Internet and
> its use for
> > >> advancing social and economic justice, would like to
> express our
> > >> strong support for the statement delivered this week by your
> > >> Excellency at the 68th Session of the United Nations General
> > >> Assembly. We commend you for taking a leading role on
> these issues
> > >> and would like to:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Fully endorse the five principles enunciated on the
> occasion, in
> > >> clear accordance with the Brazilian Internet Steering
> Committee's
> > >> Principles for the Governance and Use of the Internet.
> > >>
> > >> 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the
> Brazilian
> > >> Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da Internet)
> in a way that
> > >> upholds these principles.
> >
> >
> > >> 3. Commend the courage of Brazil in
> > >> expressing disapproval and demanding explanations from
> the USA about
> > >> the procedures of illegal interception of information
> and data,
> > >> framing it as a grave violation of human rights and of
> civil liberties
> > >>
> > >> 4. Reinforce our support for an extension into broader
> spheres of
> > >> Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian
> > >> multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led by
> CGI.br, which
> > >> comprises representatives from Government, Scientific and
> Technology
> > >> Community, private sector and Civil Society on an equal
> footing.
> > >>
> > >> We express our deep appreciation for your serious
> commitment to
> > >> social justice and development, of which an open, stable, and
> > >> reliable Internet is a fundamental pillar.
> > >>
> > >> Signatories:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Diego Rafael Canabarro
> > >> <diegocanabarro at gmail.com
> <mailto:diegocanabarro at gmail.com> > wrote: Ian is helping
> Joanna and me in
> > >> drafting this reduced optimal version. : ) On Wed, Sep
> 25, 2013 at
> > >> 10:33 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net
> <mailto:suresh at hserus.net>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Agree. Stick to the first paragraph and we are all set.
> --srs (htc
> > >> one x) On 26 September 2013 6:14:04 AM "Louis Pouzin
> (well)" wrote:
> > >> Agree with Ian. This parag is all that matters. Louis - -
> - On Thu,
> > >> Sep 26, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Ian Peter
> <ian.peter at ianpeter.com <mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Ive just looked again at this and it is getting longer
> and at the
> > >> same time worse. I think it needs a very substantial
> edit. Any more
> > >> than two paragraphs and the chance of it being read is
> meagre. To
> > >> be honest, I think no more than this is necessary. – the
> first
> > >> paragraph We, the undersigned organizations and
> individuals from
> > >> around the world, committed to the development of the
> Internet and
> > >> its use for advancing social justice, would like to
> express our
> > >> strong support for the statement delivered this week by your
> > >> Excellency at the 68th Session of the United Nations General
> > >> Assembly. (reference the speech if you wish for those
> who would
> > >> like to read more, but dont repeat it, interpret it, and
> elaborate on
> > >> it). And specifically I dont think we need to talk post
> Snowden,
> > >> and demand apologies from the USA. That ain’t going to
> happen. Ian
> > >> Peter
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