DMP} Re: [Final draft for final comments] Letter to Pres. Rousseff Re: [bestbits] [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Thu Sep 26 10:02:06 EDT 2013


The original text, in short. I do support that - and only endorsed the least controversial (or so it appeared to me) changed version in the interest of time.

If IGC reverts to supporting the original draft I would be very happy to specifically endorse that.

--srs (iPad)

> On 26-Sep-2013, at 19:21, Anja Kovacs <anja at internetdemocracy.in> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Not sure which version you mean, Norbert, but if it is the one in which point 4 starts as follows:
> 
> "Reinforce our support for an extension into broader spheres of Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led by CGI.br",
> 
> My answer is yes, we would support that.
> 
> Thanks,
> Anja 
> 
> 
>> On 26 September 2013 19:15, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Yes, i would, I did,  accept that, as it balances support to the Marco Civil with support for the multistakeholder governance.
>> 
>> When 4 was dropped it put the emphasis on approving the process of the past as opposed to suggesting a way to improve in the future.
>> 
>> That works for me.
>> 
>> avri
>> 
>> On 26 Sep 2013, at 09:25, Norbert Bollow wrote:
>> 
>> > [with IGC coordinator hat on]
>> >
>> > Suppose the drafters of the letter were willing to backtrack to this
>> > version, would the IGC then be able to endorse the letter?
>> >
>> > Avri and Anja, do I understand correctly that your objections would
>> > be moot in this case?
>> >
>> > Parminder, are you firmly objecting to this version of point 4, or would
>> > the shortened version just have been strongly preferable from your
>> > perspective?
>> >
>> > Greetings,
>> > Norbert
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> 
>> 
>> >> Letter from International Civil Society Organizations to President
>> >> Dilma Rousseff in support of her statement at the 68th Session of the
>> >> UNGA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Your Excellency,
>> >>
>> >> We, the undersigned organizations and individuals from around the
>> >> world, committed to the development of the Internet and its use for
>> >> advancing social and economic justice, would like to express our
>> >> strong support for the statement delivered this week by your
>> >> Excellency at the 68th Session of the United Nations General
>> >> Assembly. We commend you for taking a leading role on these issues
>> >> and would like to:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Fully endorse the five principles enunciated on the occasion, in
>> >> clear accordance with the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee's
>> >> Principles for the Governance and Use of the Internet.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the Brazilian
>> >> Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da Internet) in a way that
>> >> upholds these principles.
>> 
>> 
>> >> 3. Commend the courage of Brazil in
>> >> expressing disapproval and demanding explanations from the USA about
>> >> the procedures of illegal interception of  information and data,
>> >> framing it as a grave violation of human rights and of civil liberties
>> >>
>> >> 4. Reinforce our support for an extension into broader spheres of
>> >> Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian
>> >> multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led by CGI.br, which
>> >> comprises representatives from Government, Scientific and Technology
>> >> Community, private sector and Civil Society on an equal footing.
>> >>
>> >> We express our deep appreciation for your serious commitment to
>> >> social justice and development, of which an open, stable, and
>> >> reliable Internet is a fundamental pillar.
>> >>
>> >> Signatories:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Diego Rafael Canabarro
>> >> <diegocanabarro at gmail.com > wrote: Ian is helping Joanna and me in
>> >> drafting this reduced optimal version. : ) On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at
>> >> 10:33 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Agree. Stick to the first paragraph and we are all set. --srs (htc
>> >> one x) On 26 September 2013 6:14:04 AM "Louis Pouzin (well)" wrote:
>> >> Agree with Ian. This parag is all that matters. Louis - - - On Thu,
>> >> Sep 26, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ive just looked again at this and it is getting longer and at the
>> >> same time worse.   I think it needs a very substantial edit. Any more
>> >> than two paragraphs and the chance of it being read is meagre.   To
>> >> be honest, I think no more than this is necessary. – the first
>> >> paragraph   We, the undersigned organizations and individuals from
>> >> around the world, committed to the development of the Internet and
>> >> its use for advancing social justice, would like to express our
>> >> strong support for the statement delivered this week by your
>> >> Excellency at the 68th Session of the United Nations General
>> >> Assembly.   (reference the speech if you wish for those who would
>> >> like to read more, but dont repeat it, interpret it, and elaborate on
>> >> it).   And specifically I dont think we need to talk post Snowden,
>> >> and demand apologies from the USA. That ain’t going to happen.   Ian
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