<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>The original text, in short. I do support that - and only endorsed the least controversial (or so it appeared to me) changed version in the interest of time.</div><div><br></div><div>If IGC reverts to supporting the original draft I would be very happy to specifically endorse that.<br><br>--srs (iPad)</div><div><br>On 26-Sep-2013, at 19:21, Anja Kovacs <<a href="mailto:anja@internetdemocracy.in">anja@internetdemocracy.in</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>Not sure which version you mean, Norbert, but if it is the one in which point 4 starts as follows:<br><br><span>"R</span><span>einforce our support </span><span>for an extension into broader spheres of Internet Governance of </span><span>the</span><span> experiences from the</span><span> Brazilian multistakeholder model </span><span>of </span><span>Internet governance</span><span>,</span><span> </span><span>led</span><span> by <a href="http://CGI.br">CGI.br</a>",<br>
<br></span></div><span>My answer is yes, we would support that.<br><br></span></div><span>Thanks,<br></span></div><span>Anja </span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 September 2013 19:15, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi<br>
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Yes, i would, I did, accept that, as it balances support to the Marco Civil with support for the multistakeholder governance.<br>
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When 4 was dropped it put the emphasis on approving the process of the past as opposed to suggesting a way to improve in the future.<br>
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That works for me.<br>
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avri<br>
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On 26 Sep 2013, at 09:25, Norbert Bollow wrote:<br>
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> [with IGC coordinator hat on]<br>
><br>
> Suppose the drafters of the letter were willing to backtrack to this<br>
> version, would the IGC then be able to endorse the letter?<br>
><br>
> Avri and Anja, do I understand correctly that your objections would<br>
> be moot in this case?<br>
><br>
> Parminder, are you firmly objecting to this version of point 4, or would<br>
> the shortened version just have been strongly preferable from your<br>
> perspective?<br>
><br>
> Greetings,<br>
> Norbert<br>
><br>
><br>
>><br>
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</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">>> Letter from International Civil Society Organizations to President<br>
>> Dilma Rousseff in support of her statement at the 68th Session of the<br>
>> UNGA<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Your Excellency,<br>
>><br>
>> We, the undersigned organizations and individuals from around the<br>
>> world, committed to the development of the Internet and its use for<br>
>> advancing social and economic justice, would like to express our<br>
>> strong support for the statement delivered this week by your<br>
>> Excellency at the 68th Session of the United Nations General<br>
>> Assembly. We commend you for taking a leading role on these issues<br>
>> and would like to:<br>
>><br>
>> 1. Fully endorse the five principles enunciated on the occasion, in<br>
>> clear accordance with the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee's<br>
>> Principles for the Governance and Use of the Internet.<br>
>><br>
>> 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the Brazilian<br>
>> Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da Internet) in a way that<br>
>> upholds these principles.<br>
<br>
<br>
>> 3. Commend the courage of Brazil in<br>
>> expressing disapproval and demanding explanations from the USA about<br>
>> the procedures of illegal interception of information and data,<br>
>> framing it as a grave violation of human rights and of civil liberties<br>
>><br>
>> 4. Reinforce our support for an extension into broader spheres of<br>
>> Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian<br>
>> multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led by <a href="http://CGI.br">CGI.br</a>, which<br>
>> comprises representatives from Government, Scientific and Technology<br>
>> Community, private sector and Civil Society on an equal footing.<br>
>><br>
>> We express our deep appreciation for your serious commitment to<br>
>> social justice and development, of which an open, stable, and<br>
>> reliable Internet is a fundamental pillar.<br>
>><br>
>> Signatories:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Diego Rafael Canabarro<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:diegocanabarro@gmail.com">diegocanabarro@gmail.com</a> > wrote: Ian is helping Joanna and me in<br>
>> drafting this reduced optimal version. : ) On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at<br>
>> 10:33 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Agree. Stick to the first paragraph and we are all set. --srs (htc<br>
>> one x) On 26 September 2013 6:14:04 AM "Louis Pouzin (well)" wrote:<br>
>> Agree with Ian. This parag is all that matters. Louis - - - On Thu,<br>
>> Sep 26, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Ian Peter <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a> > wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Ive just looked again at this and it is getting longer and at the<br>
>> same time worse. I think it needs a very substantial edit. Any more<br>
>> than two paragraphs and the chance of it being read is meagre. To<br>
>> be honest, I think no more than this is necessary. – the first<br>
>> paragraph We, the undersigned organizations and individuals from<br>
>> around the world, committed to the development of the Internet and<br>
>> its use for advancing social justice, would like to express our<br>
>> strong support for the statement delivered this week by your<br>
>> Excellency at the 68th Session of the United Nations General<br>
>> Assembly. (reference the speech if you wish for those who would<br>
>> like to read more, but dont repeat it, interpret it, and elaborate on<br>
>> it). And specifically I dont think we need to talk post Snowden,<br>
>> and demand apologies from the USA. That ain’t going to happen. Ian<br>
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