[governance] DMP} Re: [Final draft for final comments] Letter to Pres. Rousseff

Norbert Bollow nb at bollow.ch
Thu Sep 26 08:20:03 EDT 2013 

[with IGC coordinator hat on]

If I'm reading this right, this discussion seems to have arrived at
what may be a consensus text. Congratulations!

I'd like to request that as soon as the draft text is believed to
have stabilized, one of the drafters post a complete copy of the text,
as the basis for a formal IGC consensus call.

Greetings,
Norbert


parminder at itforchange.net wrote:

> I agree...
> 
> Thanks for an excellent and quick, Joana.
> 
> 
> > Parminder, we reached our deadline of 9am in BRA. Lets proceed with
> > the endorsements, ok?
> >
> > Marco  civil is on item 2. We could add something like this yellow
> > part about the process:
> >
> > 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the Brazilian
> > Draft Bill
> > of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da Internet) in a way that upholds
> > these principles and endorses the innovative and democratic process
> > in which it was conceived.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, parminder
> > <parminder at itforchange.net>wrote:
> >
> >>  Joana
> >>
> >> I am fine if I am explained why marco process cannot be mentioned
> >> as bring
> >> a part of Brazilian IG scene that should be promoted... I
> >> understand that
> >> this process is also deliberative while being consensus seeking.
> >> Marco Civil process is a big and a happy part of the Brazilian IG
> >> scene, why should bwe not mention it.
> >>  parminder
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Thursday 26 September 2013 04:57 PM, Joana Varon wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Parminder,
> >>
> >> Considering the support from the others, this is as far as we
> >> could go:
> >>
> >> 4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model
> >> for Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
> >>
> >> Im happy you see CGI model as the whole model to be extended to the
> >> world.
> >> And we can chat a lot about it. Indeed, its a very good starting
> >> point. But
> >> it still have its problems, as every innovative way of deal with
> >> things. In
> >> fact, this letter has also the goal to straighten CGI political
> >> power as endorsing it as a legitim  intent. So, for the purpose if
> >> this and for wider consensus lets stay at this point, ok? The part
> >> of marco civil is already mentioned in previous paragraphs.
> >>
> >> We shall publish it now at BB for collecting signatures as time is
> >> passing
> >> by. Will come up with a link asap. Hope u could help with the
> >> outreach.
> >>
> >> Thanks once again for all the inputs, collaboration and insights.
> >>
> >> Best.
> >>
> >> Joana
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Sep 26, 2013 1:00 PM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian"
> >> <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  The text is fine as it is.
> >>>
> >>> Do any other members of the caucus feel strongly about changing
> >>> point 4?
> >>>
> >>> --srs (htc one x)
> >>>
> >>> On 26 September 2013 4:00:48 PM Joana Varon wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ops, just saw Parminder's emails with direct suggestions. So
> >>> could we go
> >>> for:
> >>>
> >>> 4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model
> >>> for Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Joana Varon
> >>> <joana at varonferraz.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>   Hi Louis and Parminder,
> >>>>
> >>>>  Until now you were the only ones that didnt agree fully with the
> >>>> texto,
> >>>> due to paragraph 4. From what I've got:
> >>>>
> >>>>  - Parminder has a stronger take that THE Brazilian model should
> >>>> be extended to the world.
> >>>>
> >>>>  - Louis said that we should remove that mention on the text.
> >>>>
> >>>> Before we start drafting the text, the issue about of
> >>>> multilateral vs multistakeholderism was raised and we came to a
> >>>> conclusion that though its
> >>>> not the time to criticize this specific point of Dilma's speech,
> >>>> we should
> >>>> reinforce our support for developing models for a
> >>>> multistakeholder approach
> >>>> on IG, also having CGI experiences as a inspiration.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Having in mind that for a broader endorsement we need to reach
> >>>> this middle ground, would you be fine with the actual version or
> >>>> want to submit
> >>>> changes in the language that don't affect this (middle ground)
> >>>> meaning?
> >>>> Thanks a lot for the understanding.
> >>>>
> >>>> best
> >>>>
> >>>> joana
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Louis Pouzin (well)
> >>>> <pouzin at well.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>  IMHO it would be better without parag 4.
> >>>>>  Cheers, Louis
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  btw, for those not living there, local brazilian time is UTC-3
> >>>>> - - -
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  On 26 September 2013 7:14:17 AM Joana Varon wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Dear all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please, find a reduced version below. We are closing the pad
> >>>>>> now to avoid more crazy joined editing processes. Thanks for
> >>>>>> all the contributions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let's receive final comments about very punctual changes or
> >>>>>> major disagreements and gaps until tomorrow (Thursday) 9:00 am
> >>>>>> (Brazilian time).
> >>>>>> Then collect endorsements through out the day.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Deadline for signatures will be this Thursday night, let's say
> >>>>>> 22:00, also Brazilian time*. So Carlos can deliver it in hand
> >>>>>> to President Dilma. *
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  thanks once again,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  joana
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Letter from** International C**ivil Society** Organizations**
> >>>>>> **to President Dilma Rousseff in support of her **statement at
> >>>>>> **the 68th Session of the **UNGA *
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Your Excellency,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  We, the undersigned organizations and individuals from around
> >>>>>> the world, committed to the development of the Internet and
> >>>>>> its use for advancing social and economic justice, would like
> >>>>>> to express our strong support for the statement delivered this
> >>>>>> week by your Excellency
> >>>>>> at the 68th Session of the United Nations General Assembly. We
> >>>>>> commend you for taking a leading role on these issues and
> >>>>>> would like to:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  1. Fully endorse the five principles enunciated on the
> >>>>>> occasion, in clear accordance with the Brazilian Internet
> >>>>>> Steering Committee*'*s* *Principles
> >>>>>> for the Governance and Use of the Internet.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the
> >>>>>> Brazilian Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da
> >>>>>> Internet) in a way that
> >>>>>> upholds these principles.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 3. Commend the courage of Brazil in expressing disapproval and
> >>>>>> demanding explanations from the USA about the procedures of
> >>>>>> illegal interception of  information and data, framing it as a
> >>>>>> grave violation of
> >>>>>> human rights and of civil liberties
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  4.* *Reinforce our support for an extension into broader
> >>>>>> spheres of Internet Governance of the experiences from the
> >>>>>> Brazilian multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led
> >>>>>> by CGI.br, which comprises representatives from Government,
> >>>>>> Scientific and TechnologyCommunity,
> >>>>>> private sector and Civil Society on an equal footing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  We express our deep appreciation for your serious commitment
> >>>>>> to social justice and development, of which an open, stable,
> >>>>>> and reliable
> >>>>>> Internet is a fundamental pillar.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Signatories:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  --
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Joana Varon Ferraz
> >>>> @joana_varon
> >>>> PGP 0x016B8E73
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Joana Varon Ferraz
> >>> @joana_varon
> >>> PGP 0x016B8E73
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >
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> >
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