[Final draft for final comments] Letter to Pres. Rousseff Re: [bestbits] [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN
parminder at itforchange.net
parminder at itforchange.net
Thu Sep 26 07:55:21 EDT 2013
I agree...
Thanks for an excellent and quick, Joana.
> Parminder, we reached our deadline of 9am in BRA. Lets proceed with the
> endorsements, ok?
>
> Marco civil is on item 2. We could add something like this yellow part
> about the process:
>
> 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the Brazilian Draft
> Bill
> of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da Internet) in a way that upholds these
> principles and endorses the innovative and democratic process in which it
> was conceived.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, parminder
> <parminder at itforchange.net>wrote:
>
>> Joana
>>
>> I am fine if I am explained why marco process cannot be mentioned as
>> bring
>> a part of Brazilian IG scene that should be promoted... I understand
>> that
>> this process is also deliberative while being consensus seeking. Marco
>> Civil process is a big and a happy part of the Brazilian IG scene, why
>> should bwe not mention it.
>> parminder
>>
>>
>> On Thursday 26 September 2013 04:57 PM, Joana Varon wrote:
>>
>> Dear Parminder,
>>
>> Considering the support from the others, this is as far as we could go:
>>
>> 4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model for
>> Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
>>
>> Im happy you see CGI model as the whole model to be extended to the
>> world.
>> And we can chat a lot about it. Indeed, its a very good starting point.
>> But
>> it still have its problems, as every innovative way of deal with things.
>> In
>> fact, this letter has also the goal to straighten CGI political power as
>> endorsing it as a legitim intent. So, for the purpose if this and for
>> wider consensus lets stay at this point, ok? The part of marco civil is
>> already mentioned in previous paragraphs.
>>
>> We shall publish it now at BB for collecting signatures as time is
>> passing
>> by. Will come up with a link asap. Hope u could help with the outreach.
>>
>> Thanks once again for all the inputs, collaboration and insights.
>>
>> Best.
>>
>> Joana
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2013 1:00 PM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The text is fine as it is.
>>>
>>> Do any other members of the caucus feel strongly about changing point
>>> 4?
>>>
>>> --srs (htc one x)
>>>
>>> On 26 September 2013 4:00:48 PM Joana Varon wrote:
>>>
>>> Ops, just saw Parminder's emails with direct suggestions. So could we
>>> go
>>> for:
>>>
>>> 4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model for
>>> Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Joana Varon
>>> <joana at varonferraz.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Louis and Parminder,
>>>>
>>>> Until now you were the only ones that didnt agree fully with the
>>>> texto,
>>>> due to paragraph 4. From what I've got:
>>>>
>>>> - Parminder has a stronger take that THE Brazilian model should be
>>>> extended to the world.
>>>>
>>>> - Louis said that we should remove that mention on the text.
>>>>
>>>> Before we start drafting the text, the issue about of multilateral vs
>>>> multistakeholderism was raised and we came to a conclusion that though
>>>> its
>>>> not the time to criticize this specific point of Dilma's speech, we
>>>> should
>>>> reinforce our support for developing models for a multistakeholder
>>>> approach
>>>> on IG, also having CGI experiences as a inspiration.
>>>>
>>>> Having in mind that for a broader endorsement we need to reach this
>>>> middle ground, would you be fine with the actual version or want to
>>>> submit
>>>> changes in the language that don't affect this (middle ground)
>>>> meaning?
>>>> Thanks a lot for the understanding.
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>>
>>>> joana
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Louis Pouzin (well)
>>>> <pouzin at well.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IMHO it would be better without parag 4.
>>>>> Cheers, Louis
>>>>>
>>>>> btw, for those not living there, local brazilian time is UTC-3
>>>>> - - -
>>>>>
>>>>> On 26 September 2013 7:14:17 AM Joana Varon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please, find a reduced version below. We are closing the pad now to
>>>>>> avoid more crazy joined editing processes. Thanks for all the
>>>>>> contributions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's receive final comments about very punctual changes or major
>>>>>> disagreements and gaps until tomorrow (Thursday) 9:00 am (Brazilian
>>>>>> time).
>>>>>> Then collect endorsements through out the day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Deadline for signatures will be this Thursday night, let's say
>>>>>> 22:00, also Brazilian time*. So Carlos can deliver it in hand to
>>>>>> President Dilma. *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks once again,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> joana
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Letter from** International C**ivil Society** Organizations** **to
>>>>>> President Dilma Rousseff in support of her **statement at **the 68th
>>>>>> Session of the **UNGA *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your Excellency,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We, the undersigned organizations and individuals from around the
>>>>>> world, committed to the development of the Internet and its use for
>>>>>> advancing social and economic justice, would like to express our
>>>>>> strong support for the statement delivered this week by your
>>>>>> Excellency
>>>>>> at the 68th Session of the United Nations General Assembly. We
>>>>>> commend you for taking a leading role on these issues and would like
>>>>>> to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Fully endorse the five principles enunciated on the occasion, in
>>>>>> clear accordance with the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee*'*s*
>>>>>> *Principles
>>>>>> for the Governance and Use of the Internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the Brazilian
>>>>>> Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da Internet) in a way
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> upholds these principles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Commend the courage of Brazil in expressing disapproval and
>>>>>> demanding explanations from the USA about the procedures of illegal
>>>>>> interception of information and data, framing it as a grave
>>>>>> violation of
>>>>>> human rights and of civil liberties
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4.* *Reinforce our support for an extension into broader spheres of
>>>>>> Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian
>>>>>> multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led by CGI.br, which
>>>>>> comprises representatives from Government, Scientific and
>>>>>> TechnologyCommunity,
>>>>>> private sector and Civil Society on an equal footing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We express our deep appreciation for your serious commitment to
>>>>>> social justice and development, of which an open, stable, and
>>>>>> reliable
>>>>>> Internet is a fundamental pillar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signatories:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Joana Varon Ferraz
>>>> @joana_varon
>>>> PGP 0x016B8E73
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> Joana Varon Ferraz
>>> @joana_varon
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>>>
>>>
>>
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