[Final draft for final comments] Letter to Pres. Rousseff Re: [bestbits] [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN
Avri Doria
avri at ella.com
Thu Sep 26 08:07:22 EDT 2013
Hi,
Part of my concern wit this is that various episodes we have seen on this of the government ministers at certain points just deciding to run away with the process and change it to something that people in civil society and other sectors did not agree with and had little the could do to change that.
I have not been convinced that this is a model to follow.
avri
On 26 Sep 2013, at 07:45, Joana Varon wrote:
> Parminder, we reached our deadline of 9am in BRA. Lets proceed with the endorsements, ok?
>
> Marco civil is on item 2. We could add something like this yellow part about the process:
>
> 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the Brazilian Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da Internet) in a way that upholds these principles and endorses the innovative and democratic process in which it was conceived.
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> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
> Joana
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> I am fine if I am explained why marco process cannot be mentioned as bring a part of Brazilian IG scene that should be promoted... I understand that this process is also deliberative while being consensus seeking. Marco Civil process is a big and a happy part of the Brazilian IG scene, why should bwe not mention it.
> parminder
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> On Thursday 26 September 2013 04:57 PM, Joana Varon wrote:
>> Dear Parminder,
>>
>> Considering the support from the others, this is as far as we could go:
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>> 4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model for Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
>> Im happy you see CGI model as the whole model to be extended to the world. And we can chat a lot about it. Indeed, its a very good starting point. But it still have its problems, as every innovative way of deal with things. In fact, this letter has also the goal to straighten CGI political power as endorsing it as a legitim intent. So, for the purpose if this and for wider consensus lets stay at this point, ok? The part of marco civil is already mentioned in previous paragraphs.
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>> We shall publish it now at BB for collecting signatures as time is passing by. Will come up with a link asap. Hope u could help with the outreach.
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>> Thanks once again for all the inputs, collaboration and insights.
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>> Best.
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>> Joana
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>> On Sep 26, 2013 1:00 PM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>> The text is fine as it is.
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>> Do any other members of the caucus feel strongly about changing point 4?
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>> --srs (htc one x)
>> On 26 September 2013 4:00:48 PM Joana Varon wrote:
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>>> Ops, just saw Parminder's emails with direct suggestions. So could we go for:
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>>> 4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model for Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
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>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Louis and Parminder,
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>>> Until now you were the only ones that didnt agree fully with the texto, due to paragraph 4. From what I've got:
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>>> - Parminder has a stronger take that THE Brazilian model should be extended to the world.
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>>> - Louis said that we should remove that mention on the text.
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>>> Before we start drafting the text, the issue about of multilateral vs multistakeholderism was raised and we came to a conclusion that though its not the time to criticize this specific point of Dilma's speech, we should reinforce our support for developing models for a multistakeholder approach on IG, also having CGI experiences as a inspiration.
>>>
>>> Having in mind that for a broader endorsement we need to reach this middle ground, would you be fine with the actual version or want to submit changes in the language that don't affect this (middle ground) meaning? Thanks a lot for the understanding.
>>>
>>> best
>>>
>>> joana
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com> wrote:
>>> IMHO it would be better without parag 4.
>>> Cheers, Louis
>>>
>>> btw, for those not living there, local brazilian time is UTC-3
>>> - - -
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>>> On 26 September 2013 7:14:17 AM Joana Varon wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Please, find a reduced version below. We are closing the pad now to avoid more crazy joined editing processes. Thanks for all the contributions.
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>>>> Let's receive final comments about very punctual changes or major disagreements and gaps until tomorrow (Thursday) 9:00 am (Brazilian time). Then collect endorsements through out the day.
>>>>
>>>> Deadline for signatures will be this Thursday night, let's say 22:00, also Brazilian time. So Carlos can deliver it in hand to President Dilma.
>>>>
>>>> thanks once again,
>>>>
>>>> joana
>>>>
>>>> Letter from International Civil Society Organizations to President Dilma Rousseff in support of her statement at the 68th Session of the UNGA
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>>>>
>>>> Your Excellency,
>>>>
>>>> We, the undersigned organizations and individuals from around the world, committed to the development of the Internet and its use for advancing social and economic justice, would like to express our strong support for the statement delivered this week by your Excellency at the 68th Session of the United Nations General Assembly. We commend you for taking a leading role on these issues and would like to:
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>>>> 1. Fully endorse the five principles enunciated on the occasion, in clear accordance with the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee's Principles for the Governance and Use of the Internet.
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>>>> 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the Brazilian Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da Internet) in a way that upholds these principles.
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>>>> 3. Commend the courage of Brazil in expressing disapproval and demanding explanations from the USA about the procedures of illegal interception of information and data, framing it as a grave violation of human rights and of civil liberties
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>>>> 4. Reinforce our support for an extension into broader spheres of Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led by CGI.br, which comprises representatives from Government, Scientific and Technology Community, private sector and Civil Society on an equal footing.
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>>>> We express our deep appreciation for your serious commitment to social justice and development, of which an open, stable, and reliable Internet is a fundamental pillar.
>>>>
>>>> Signatories:
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