[governance] Re: Who is Civil Society?

[Dominique Lacroix]

Yes, Daniel. I do think you're right.
I mentionned this only to keep in mind some everyday realities...

By the way, did you see that marvellous quotation from Vinton Cerf 
yesterday on the Internet policy list of ISOC?

"/NSA was involved in the early development of the TCP/IP protocols and 
contributed in a number of positive ways towards improved security./"
He wrote that very seriously, without any humourous bit.

Great, isn't it?

Perhaps a European mind seeks to separate different interests. At the 
contrary sometimes, US minds seem to tightly mix all interests into an 
only one.
Don't you feel someting like that?

@+, kind regards, Dom



Le 19/09/13 00:14, Daniel Pimienta a écrit :
>> What about one belonging to a so called CSO that is also sponsored by 
>> business and very close to gov and secret services?
> Bonsoir Dominique :-)
>
> As I said there is no perfect solution but the institutional approach 
> brings better garanty, if not perfect.
>
> In my 25 years working in a CSO I can testify that quite often I had 
> this type of suspicion and I conducted investigations... which 
> eventually does not bring proofs but strong presumptions...
>
> Naivety is something CSOs cannot afford if they want to be efficient 
> players in multistakeholder games.
>
> During WSIS, who participated from civil society remember some 
> "Tunisian NGO's " which were covered secret agents of Ben Ali's 
> government spying our meetings. Real Tunisian NGO's warned us (and 
> sometimes affront them providing intense and dramatic moments) 
> although their representatives behave so obviously that you needed to 
> be really, but really, naive to swallow it ;-).
>
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