[governance] stakeholder categories (was Re: NSA sabotage of Internet security standards...)

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Wed Sep 18 14:22:56 EDT 2013


Hi,

Well according to the IGC charter, we are all Civil society who declare ourselves to be.  The point is dedicating your work toward the well being, as you understand it, of civl society interest.  I am comfortable with this standard and don't really care where a person does it.

But if, under the leadership of one of our co-cos we get down to determining who is and is not influenced as a determinant, I think there will be a lot of things to look at, including my favorite - who funds your so-called  Civil society organization.

Also, for those who live in countries where the registration as an NGO is state controlled and a perk of cooperation, I have questions as to the degree of uninfluence those folks can ever really have.

As for RFC 3869, civil society it could not speak of, and thereof remained silent on the issue.

avri
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On 18 Sep 2013, at 12:08, JFC Morfin wrote:

> At 17:38 18/09/2013, avri doria wrote:
>> What about those NGOs, research and educational enterprise that get most of their funding from industry. Are they influenced? Certainly ofif we were talking about lab testing of that industry's products we would consider them influenced.
> 
> Avri,
> 
> this was perfectly addressed by RFC 3869.
> RFC 3869 is realistically but incompletly updated by RFC 6852.
> Both are explained by PRISM.
> 
> The rule is simple: trust no one you do not trust for your own life. Because it is actually your own life, sometime, somehow, which may be at stake.
> jfc 
> 


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