[governance] Ad hoc Best Bits strategy meeting tomorrow lunchtime

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Ah, the usual uncivil society types at work again. I never did hear the entire story of why so many people walked out of the IGC face to face meeting ..

--srs (iPad)

> On 27-Oct-2013, at 9:28, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
>> On 27/10/2013, at 6:05 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at SYR.EDU> wrote:
>> 
>> CS is not advocating a single meaningful reform of the existing IG
>> environment. That's sad. Others on this list will therefore have to organize
>> another sign on letter that actually promotes something specific - hope you
>> will help with that effort, David. And anyone else interested, please
>> contact me privately.
>> 
>> 
>> It's not like that at all.  It's that the more specific you get, the fewer
>> endorsements you get.  Consider that the broad and general sign-on statement
>> has so far 50 endorsements, whereas the more specific (but still equivocal)
>> Best Bits submission to the WGEC got only 19, and my own (much more
>> specific) submission to the WGEC got 1 (I didn't even try for more, knowing
>> that it was not feasible).
>> 
>> At the Best Bits meeting and during the IGF there was absolutely no time to
>> get more concrete proposals agreed, nor was it the right time to do so.
>> It was, however, exactly the right time to put out something simple saying
>> "We're here, and we expect to be involved".  And even doing that generated
>> significant opposition!
> 
> How could that generate opposition?  It was poisoning of the well with the
> "power grab" meme, combined with physical intimidation of one of our members
> by another plus the anti-MS snark that generated opposition.
> 
> You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.  Unfortunately,
> those most eager
> to change ICANN oversight are all vinegar and no honey!
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
> 
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