[governance] Ad hoc Best Bits strategy meeting tomorrow lunchtime

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Thu Oct 24 23:16:27 EDT 2013


On Friday 25 October 2013 12:05 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> This is a perfect example of why I've been warning you to focus in on 
> things the IG community actually knows something about and can do 
> something about, such as the IANA contract and ICANN accountability, 
> rather than posing as a global parliament and thinking that you can 
> legislate across 27 different sectors of the economy, taxation and 
> even national security.
>
> Any meeting, in Rio or elsewhere in 2014, that takes on the agenda 
> suggested by Parminder below, will get nowhere. Not just because the 
> issues are too diverse and there will not even be a suitable knowledge 
> base, much less consensus on policy outcomes, but also because any 
> such group would totally lack the authority required to address such 
> issues. Lacking such authority, the meeting will be NO DIFFERENT from 
> an IGF. So why do it in Rio? Why not the IGF?
>
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> Parminder's agenda
> >global public policy development in substantive areas like norms/ 
> guidelines/ legal frameworks
> >for privacy, net neutrality, taxation issues around cross border 
> e-com, competition issues, and
> >the so many other areas of public policy areas....

Please read my original email... This is not my agenda, but a question 
to Bill/ others whether this is the intended broader area of interest of 
the I* community to extend ICANN model of governance to.... I addressed 
a question to this effect to Chris Disspain at the meeting they 
organised on 'Brazil meeting' and he said, yes, we are *not* talking 
about technical governance side only but this other side of larger IG 
issues would be a central focus of the Brazil meeting... Their intention 
of course is to try and extend the ICANN model of governance to these 
areas of substantive policy making.

I asked Brazilians at another meeting about the scope the proposed 
Brazil meeting, and they too said, our intention is to address all 
global IG issues and not only of the technical governance kind.

Personally, I dont have  a problem with an international meeting solving 
at least one important problem of global IG - which is the oversight 
issue and internationalisation of tech gov system. I dont even have  a 
problem with a meeting focussing exclusively on this one set of issues.  
However, any such effort should not become a cover for making no 
progress - or in other words, blocking progress - on the other issues 
that I indicated  are even more important to me.

parminder



> ----
>
> (I myself am eager to work on the "many other areas of public policy 
> areas")
>
> Ironically, here in Washington I also heard the ICANN representative 
> talking about how the Rio meeting should address many new, "orphan" 
> issues such as.....wait for it.....cybersecurity! Yeah, that's a 
> problem that's going to be solved by a one off meeting with 1000 
> people in it, for sure....
>
> I can explain this absurd position in two possible ways: first, it may 
> be that the I* orgs would prefer that Brazil, other governments and 
> everyone else waste their time chatting about "global public policy 
> development" (i.e., duplicating the IGF) rather than actually solving 
> ICANN's accountability and IANA problem. After all, we've seen what 
> IGF has accomplished in 7 years. A neo-IGF will do the same, but might 
> manage to maintain the illusion for governments that something new is 
> happening.
>
> Another, slightly less cynical explanation is that they want this Rio 
> meeting to pre-empt the ITU plenipot, as some states still want the 
> ITU to do cybersecurity. So apparently these people are so 
> irrationally afraid of the ITU that they would rather push vital areas 
> of policy into hastily thrown together and poorly designed 
> multistakeholder processes just so they can say that the ITU doesn't 
> need to do it.
>
>
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