[governance] Ad hoc Best Bits strategy meeting tomorrow lunchtime

[Carlos A. Afonso]

Monkeys bite me! I do not wish the technical community taking over. The 
vision of a Skynet is terrifying!

--c.a.

On 10/23/2013 02:53 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote:
> Thanks, Jeremy, for alerting us about what is going on with the
> "technical" community.
> Personally, I'm okay with moving the call for endorsement to 24hrs
> earlier --just as I agree with the need for more private/f2f strategizing.
>
> McTim, multistakeholder does not mean anti-governmentalism. Nor does it
> say the "technical community" takes over from government. It really
> means "on equal footing" etc., governments included, if you ask me.
> Furthermore, I do not think I have any track record for celebrating
> governments, but I'll say this. In some circumstances, governments may
> be evil, but it was also a world led by governments which gave us the
> Universal Declaration of Human Rights and related texts, which have
> served as formidable normative tools for social progress. And sometimes,
> some of them put a stake into seeing those norms upheld.
>
> Left to their own devices, techies don't necessarily have the best
> interest of the user at heart (I suspect Vint Cerf would agree with me
> since while opposing the notion that Internet is a HR, he suggested that
> designers could do a better job in making the technology more
> HR-friendly, so to speak, in short.) While they do a lot of wonderful
> things --there's no denying that, not of my part anyway-- techies cannot
> write a clean and accurate user guide for... users! It is my sense that
> they are mostly impressed with impressing their peers, as is often the
> case with minority groups of meritocrats. So yes, seeing
> "multistakeholderism" as the opportunity to shift from
> "government-centric" to "techno-centric" should be a matter of concern
> to CS --or to any plain citizen, for that matter.
>
> I'm just saying -- "on equal footing" my dear!
>
> Mawaki
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 2:37 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com
> <mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Jeremy,
>
>     On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org
>     <mailto:jeremy at ciroap.org>> wrote:
>      > I haven't had a chance to write about the technical community
>     meeting that
>      > took place at lunchtime today, but it felt (to me) like an
>     astonishing
>      > power-grab in progress - they are forming a new coalition that
>     will create a
>      > "grassroots" campaign, with the pre-determined objective of
>     reasserting the
>      > primacy of "the" multi-stakeholder model against "government-centric"
>      > models.
>
>     CS should not have a problem with that, we should embrace it as it
>     gives CS more clout than a Inter-gov model, no?
>
>
>     --
>     Cheers,
>
>     McTim
>     "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>     route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>
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