[bestbits] Re: [governance] Ad hoc Best Bits strategy meeting, etc.

[JFC Morfin]

At 18:53 23/10/2013, Mawaki Chango wrote:
>Techies cannot write a clean and accurate user guide for... users! 
>It is my sense that they are mostly impressed with impressing their 
>peers, as is often the case with minority groups of meritocrats. So 
>yes, seeing "multistakeholderism" as the opportunity to shift from 
>"government-centric" to "techno-centric" should be a matter of 
>concern to CS --or to any plain citizen, for that matter.

+1

>I'm just saying -- "on equal footing" my dear!

Is there not a formula to say "on equal tonguing". I start being 
surprised by this non multilinguistic multi-stakeholderism.
Until now techies dealt with machines only. This is no more true with 
the semantic layers.

We are now dealing with a part of your brain (and, as the NSA shows 
it, of your person).

The first of the human rights is to speak and be taught it his 
langage (denying it is assimilated to cultural genocide); then there 
is the right to understand others; then the right not to hear others' 
noise; etc. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_%28political_science%29

At 19:22 23/10/2013, Poncelet Ileleji wrote:
>Within the CS community in my opinion  our role is to ensure  the 
>processes  to be inclusive all voices should be heard,  dialogues 
>should be inclusive, agendas and communiques should reflect the true 
>spirit of "multistakeholderism".

Just a minute. Multi-stakeholderism is not only a way to be "heard", 
but a decision process that replace democratic votes in polycratic 
process where the multiplicty of stakes, groups of diffent sizes, and 
kinds of interest, etc. calls for a more adapted process. However, it 
should never by-pass a participation to the decision (not just 
hearings) at least through an appeal capacity. The technical 
monopoly, the Internet Consortium that Jeremy talks about, is 
preparing is based on RFC 6852 "hearing" and lack of appeal. This is 
a fundamental error: if a technical disagreement cannt be solved 
among techies, it will result in a technical fork (i.e. the 
balkanization of the Internet).

jfc


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