AW: [governance] Re: [bestbits] Google's growing web of influence

Sonigitu Ekpe soekpe at gmail.com
Sat Oct 19 23:10:43 EDT 2013


This is a great point from Wolfgang.
Solving problems with Knowledge and understanding.

Best.

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On Oct 20, 2013 11:02 AM, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang <
wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote:

> What is needed here - and we discussed already in WSIS I and WSIS II
> nrearl ten years agi - are something like procedures for the relationship
> beteen stakeholders within a MS mechanism. From a CS point of view we
> should develop some guideliens and criteria under which we would
> collaborate with governments, private sector and the technical community.
> With all stakehholder grups CS has sometimes something in common but has
> also conflicts. This does not exclude collabboration - where it meets the
> standards, values and interests of CS - but it needs also clear positions
> where such a collaboration is a controversy. To strengthen our own profile,
> to clear what our inteerests and positions are enables us best to define
> where we can cooperate and where not.
>
> wolfgang
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von parminder
> Gesendet: So 20.10.2013 02:49
> An: bestbits at lists.igcaucus.org; governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Betreff: [governance] Re: [bestbits] Google's growing web of influence
>
>
>
> On Sunday 20 October 2013 05:40 AM, Norbert Bollow wrote:
> > Dear all
> >
> > Google is definitely working with determination and a long-term
> > strategy to shape the public discourse as much as possible in its
> > favor, and its civil society funding activities are part of this
> > strategy
> >
> >
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/how-google-lobbies-german-government-over-internet-regulation-a-857654.html
> >
> > http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?288214
> >
> > We need to discuss what this means from the perspective of protecting
> > ourselves from getting unknowingly corrupted and compromised. This
> > discussions needs to happen both in regard to international civil
> > society in IG as a whole and in regard to BestBits in particular.
>
> very interesting... These are very significant structural issues of
> global IG that we cannot avoid confronting directly. How much civil
> society will really be taken seriously depends on how much moral
> legitimacy we have, which is one of the chief legitimacies of civil
> society. And such legitimacy would come from confronting such issues
> directly, and being rather upfront about it. I think there should be a
> basic transparency (and accountabiltiy) code of conduct for civil
> society in IG space,  at least that part of civil society that works
> together in spaces like BestBits and IGC. May be today's BestBits
> meeting can discuss this in the session on internal BB issues etc. I
> would greatly prefer if we do so.
>
>
> Around the same time last year a similar analysis came out of how google
> was trying to (rather effectively) capture the IG related civil society
> discursive and advocacy space in Germany ...
>
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/how-google-lobbies-german-government-over-internet-regulation-a-857654.html
>
>
> Your choice of the email subject line suggests that you know of this
> german news item, but just in case...
>
>
> If google can do such a thing in a rather mature institutional system of
> Germany, we can well judge what would it be like iin places with less
> mature social institutions.. I know that in countries ranging from Korea
> to many countries in Africa, also of course in Asia and Latin America,
> Google is aggressively throwing in funds for IG civil society groups.
>
>
> parminder
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Norbert
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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