[governance] DMP} Draft letter text - IGC consensus process

Fri Oct 11 23:46:40 EDT 2013

Shorter versions are fine

But need a line to put the stake in the ground --  and say that civil 
society offers to fully participate in the process, which should be open 
and inclusive. And no loss in highlighting Brazil's exemplary record in 
terms of real partnerships with civil society on many key issues at 
global as well as domestic level (which is fully a fact). Helps give an 
indication as to what kind of structural embeddedness into the proposed 
initiative civil society seeks, and a word or two of genuine 
appreciative words would possibly goad them to, in the best case 
scenario, actually acknowledge our support and even do something 
concrete to include us as an important actor. I am sure we all agree 
with this objective.... and if we do, this is the tactical way to try 
and achieve it.

I will suggest text right away...

parminder

On Saturday 12 October 2013 03:04 AM, michael gurstein wrote:
> I agree with Lee but am okay with this version.
>
> M
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Lee W McKnight
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> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Anriette Esterhuysen; Ian Peter; Norbert
> Bollow
> Subject: RE: [governance] DMP} Draft letter text - IGC consensus process
>
> Anriette,
>
> As all parties know it will be discussed at IGF, personally I do not think
> it especially important to  state that. But I have no problem with your
> edit.
>
> Lee
> ________________________________________
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> [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Anriette Esterhuysen
> [anriette at apc.org]
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> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Ian Peter; Norbert Bollow
> Subject: Re: [governance] DMP} Draft letter text - IGC consensus process
>
> I would add just one reference to the final paragraph of this shorter
> version which I think is very good.
>
> In view of the global importance of this subject, we look forward to
> discussing it further at the upcoming Internet Governance Forum in Bali, and
> to contributing to your initiative with specific and concrete proposals.
>
> I am not opposed to this letter, but still leaning toward's Anja and other's
> advice to wait a while. I also feel the letter I also believe we need to be
> consistent. When the 2011 IBSA proposal was made by India and Brazil there
> was an outcry in the IGF community and all three governments were urged to
> discuss these proposals at the IGF before tabling them at the GA?
>
> Do we no longer think this is important?
>
> Anriette
>
>
> On 11/10/2013 21:35, Lee W McKnight wrote:
>> Quick edit of last paragraph.
>>
>> Lee
>> ________________________________________
>> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
>> [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Ian Peter
>> [ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 3:31 PM
>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Norbert Bollow
>> Subject: Re: [governance] DMP} Draft letter text - IGC consensus
>> process
>>
>> Far too long. If we are to send anything, here is a suggested shorter
>> version.
>>
>> Your Excellency President Rousseff and other representatives of the
>> Brazilian government
>>
>> We, the undersigned civil society organizations and individuals from
>> around the world, would like to express our appreciation and support
>> for the recently announced initiative of the government of Brazil,
>> along with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>> (ICANN), to "discuss the necessary changes to Internet governance" and
>> to restore trust in the Internet as the foundation of our global
>> information societies.
>>
>> We consider these to be discussions of crucial importance for the
>> future of the development of the Internet in the global public
>> interest and for the shared benefit of the peoples of the world.
>>
>> In view of the global importance of this subject, we look forward to
>> contributing to your initiative with specific and concrete proposals.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Norbert Bollow
>> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 2:29 AM
>> To: IGC
>> Subject: [governance] DMP} Draft letter text - IGC consensus process
>>
>> Here is the current content of the etherpad where informal drafting
>> has taken place:
>>
>> --snip----------------------------------------------------------------
>> -- Letter from International Civil Society Organizations to the
>> government of Brazil in regard to the planned event on Internet
>> governance in 2014
>>
>> Your Excellency President Rousseff and other representatives of the
>> Brazilian government
>>
>> We, the undersigned civil society organizations and individuals from
>> around the world, would like to express our appreciation and support
>> for the recently announced initiative of the government of Brazil,
>> along with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>> (ICANN), to "discuss the necessary changes to Internet governance" and
>> to restore trust in the Internet as the foundation of our global
>> information societies.
>>
>> We consider these to be discussions of crucial importance for the
>> future of the development of the Internet in the global public
>> interest and for the shared benefit of the peoples of the world.
>>
>> In view of the global importance of this subject, we look to civil
>> society being an equal partner to this dialogue at all stages from
>> agenda-setting onwards, and that the preparatory process for the
>> planned event be open and transparent and inclusive of all interested
>> parties.  This process should be particularly focused on realizing the
>> broadest base of shared benefits for the global community including
>> support for economic and social development, and innovation in pursuit
>> of the resolution of significant matters of broad impact and concern.
>>
>> We further note with appreciation that Brazil has a strong tradition
>> and experience with effective partnerships with civil society on many
>> important domestic and global issues, including most notably for this
>> context the proposed Marco Civil for which we as international civil
>> society organizations and individuals provide our strong endorsement,
>> and the highly successful CGI model of Internet governance at the
>> national level. This event presents an outstanding opportunity to move
>> these experiences forward into the emerging area of global Internet
>> governance.  The discussions should be action-oriented, proposing
>> concrete measures to democratise and internationalise global Internet
>> governance.
>>
>> We look forward to learning more details of the event as they emerge
>> and to contributing to this with specific and concrete proposals which
>> will be the subject of discussion during upcoming meetings during the
>> Bali IGF.
>>
>> The undersigned civil society organisations from across the world
>> offer their support to your initiative and will look forward to
>> partnering in its various processes as they evolve.
>>
>> We look forward to contributing to the successful development of the
>> global Internet governance event in 2014 and to the new mechanisms and
>> arrangements that develop from it.
>>
>> Yours sincerely
>> --snap----------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>>
>> I personally would have preferred a simpler and shorter letter (and
>> one that is more specifically from IGC) but since this is what has
>> come out of an informal drafting process in which quite a few IGC
>> members have already participated, I feel that it may be best to take
>> this as the starting point for the IGC consensus process.
>>
>> The idea here is that I hope that IGC can reach consensus (or at least
>> rough consensus) on either accepting this text as-is, or on some some
>> modified version is derived from this, and that we'd then put that up
>> also inviting civil society organizations as well as individuals to
>> endorse.
>>
>> [with IGC coordinator hat on]
>>
>> Please post any disagreements regarding the draft text together with a
>> specific proposal for a change and your justification for why you ask
>> for this change.
>>
>> In view of the situation that the letter can be expected to be most
>> effective if it is ready soon, please give this process a high
>> priority and post change requests as quickly as reasonably possible. I
>> have no idea yet what will be appropriate in regard to consensus
>> process deadlines. Just in case we might end in an unpleasantly
>> time-constrained situation where tight deadlines are needed, I'd like
>> to request IGC members who strongly care about the specific details of
>> the outcome of this consensus process to check their IGC email at
>> least every twelve hours.
>>
>> The other thread, in which I invited any fundamental objection to such
>> a letter to be voiced, is also still open.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Norbert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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