[governance] Re: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014
Ray Plzak
plzakr at gmail.com
Thu Oct 10 15:10:33 EDT 2013
Carlos,
I can agree with you on that! :-)
Ray
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From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Carlos A. Afonso
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:13 PM
To: Rafik Dammak
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Subject: [governance] Re: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014
It takes a lot more to get me excited, Rafik! A lot more... :)
frt rgds
--c.a.
On 10/10/2013 11:39 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi Carlos,
>
> I understand your excitement and pride as Brazilian but as Tunisian I
> am more cautious with what my gov can claim :) (I would instead wait
> till marco civil to be voted to celebrate for example but yes I am not
> familiar with Brazilian internal politics) not sure what is your take
> regarding IGF, ywa you are talking about interesting process , but we
> dont have such process now and it looks more as an interpretation and
> wish than something concrete. are you looking to replace IGF by a
> summit yet to be defined?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> 2013/10/10 Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>>
>
> I personally do hope it will *not* look like *nor* do like the IGF. We
> need a pluriparticipative decision-making process on international IG,
> and maybe this is the way to start it. Instead of just becoming
> suspicious, let us work proactively together to make sure we have strong
> representation in this process.
>
> fraternal regards
>
> --c.a.
>
> On 10/09/2013 10:33 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > maybe I will looks quite cautious against the enthusiasm and
> excitement
> > emerging here, but listening to Fadi short message, I am wondering
> about
> > the meaning of openness since he is talking about "leaders" of
> > governments, civil society etc (I think that is alarm bell for those
> > familiar to his speeches). it may look like the WEF of IG more
> than IGF
> > alike.
> > while we are still having heated discussion about the "inflation" of
> > conference and venues like Cyber Conf in seoul , how can we
> welcome such
> > summit?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Rafik
> >
> >
> > 2013/10/10 Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com
> <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com>
> > <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com>>>
> >
> > Very interesting and very crazy (in a good way, I guess).
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Lee W McKnight
> <lmcknigh at syr.edu <mailto:lmcknigh at syr.edu>
> > <mailto:lmcknigh at syr.edu <mailto:lmcknigh at syr.edu>>> wrote:
> >
> > Waiting for any UN process is not the way things like this
> happen.
> >
> > Brazil + ICANN = critical mass for a next phase process.
> > Agenda-setting moment was President Rousseff at UNGA, for
> a new
> > game which will reference those already played but need not be
> > limited to process, schedule, or terms of prior phases.
> >
> > UN orgs will of course be invited and can participate, and the
> > President will work around existing UN schedules to extent
> > feasible, but boxing the new thing into the old schedule is
> > probably not what was just agreed.
> >
> > My 2 cents of veteran but perhaps off-base global policy
> process
> > assessment.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
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> > *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host
> > world event on Internet governance in 2014
> >
> > I was a bit puzzled in terms of UN processes. Could it be the
> > red interrogation mark on our visualization map?
> >
> > http://bestbits.net/wp-uploads/diagram.html
> >
> > I mean, does she has to wait for Sharm el Sheik meeting on the
> > WSIS+10 process? Or we can have a summit completely
> independent?
> > During MPP phase 2 meeting this week it was evident that
> Brazil
> > wanted a high level event after sharm el sheik, but I didnt
> > envision a Summit coming and I wonder if both processes
> will be
> > connected.
> >
> > On Oct 9, 2013 6:46 PM, "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca
> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>
> > <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>>> wrote:
> >
> > [sorry for possible duplicate posts]
> >
> > Dear people
> >
> > Here is the Google Translate English version (I did some
> > editing) of the
> > official report on the meeting between President Rousseff
> > and ICANN's
> > President and CEO Fadi Chehadé, which just happened.
> >
> > The original version in Brazilian Portuguese is at the
> end.
> >
> > fraternal regards
> >
> > --c.a.
> >
> >
> http://convergenciadigital.uol.com.br/cgi/cgilua.exe/sys/start.htm?infoid=35107&sid=4&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#.UlXEbbOm1q8
> >
> > Brazil will host world event on Internet governance
> >
> > >From the editor :: Convergência Digital :: 09/10/2013
> >
> > Brazil will host the meeting in 2014 to discuss the
> > necessary changes to
> > Internet governance. After meeting with the president
> of the
> > Internet
> > Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann, its
> > acronym in
> > English), Fadi Chehadé, President Dilma Rousseff agreed to
> > meet global
> > leaders from different sectors interested in the topic.
> >
> > According to Chehadé, the world counts on Brazil's
> > leadership on this
> > issue, after President Dilma Rousseff spoke at the opening
> > of the 68th
> > UN General Assembly, held in September in the United
> States.
> > "The world
> > heard the Brazilian president, who spoke with deep
> > conviction, with
> > great courage, and expressed the frustration that many
> > people around the
> > world feel about the fact that the trust relationship we
> > have with the
> > Internet had been broken,"said, revealing that the
> speech by
> > Dilma was
> > the motivation of his proposal for their meeting.
> >
> > Chehadé cited allegations of espionage involving the
> > communication of
> > Brazilian authorities and citizens, among them the very
> > president,
> > Petrobras and the Ministry of Mines and Energy. "I came to
> > ask the
> > president to elevate her leadership to a new level, to
> > ensure that we
> > can all get together around a new model of governance in
> > which all are
> > equal," he said. The president of Icann said that future
> > decisions on
> > how leaders can manage the internet should be based on the
> > principles of
> > the Civil Rights Framework for the Internet in Brazil
> which
> > is going
> > through the National Congress.
> >
> > Fadi Chehadé was yesterday (Oct.7th) with Communications
> > Minister Paulo
> > Bernardo, to ask for help from Brazil to start discussions
> > about changes
> > in the governance of the Internet, and said that the
> > arrangements should
> > begin this year. According to him, the need for a new
> > governing body of
> > the Internet requires the involvement of multiple actors,
> > not just the
> > government.
> >
> > "I understand that the internet has a new feature that
> > requires active
> > participation by governments, their respective agencies
> > within the
> > United Nations, but also in the context of users, civil
> > society, the
> > technicians, who after all make the Internet work,"
> Chehadé
> > defended.
> > For the president of the corporation, academics and
> > industrialists need
> > to participate in the debate, as they reflect on
> rights and
> > carry out
> > the management of the Internet infrastructure.
> >
> > The president of Icann said telecommunications companies
> > must also
> > attend the conference."They are integral part of the
> family
> > with which
> > we must work," he said. According to Paulo Bernardo,
> > President Dilma
> > agreed that changes in network governance must occur
> > multilaterally and
> > with the participation of all actors who engage the
> > internet, and said
> > that "we must not allow economic, political and religious
> > interests to
> > interfere in the free circulation of ideas." The minister
> > said that the
> > suggestion of the president is that the event be held in
> > April 2014 in
> > Rio de Janeiro.
> >
> > Source : Agência Brazil
> >
> > -------- original in pt-br -------------
> >
> > O Brasil vai sediar em 2014 o encontro para discutir
> as mudanças
> > necessárias para a governança da internet. Após se
> encontrar
> > com o
> > presidente da Corporação da Internet para Atribuição de
> > Nomes e Números
> > (Icann, na sigla em inglês), Fadi Chehadé, a presidenta
> > Dilma Rousseff
> > concordou em reunir líderes globais de diferentes setores
> > interessados
> > no tema.
> >
> > De acordo com Chehadé, o mundo conta com a liderança
> > brasileira nesta
> > questão, depois que a Presidenta Dilma Rousseff
> discursou na
> > abertura da
> > 68ª Assembleia Geral da ONU, ocorrida em setembro nos
> > Estados Unidos. “O
> > mundo ouviu a Presidenta brasileira, que falou com
> profunda
> > convicção,
> > com muita coragem, e externou a frustração que muitas
> > pessoas, em todo
> > mundo, sentiam com o fato de que a confiança havia sido
> > quebrada que
> > temos com relação à internet”, disse, revelando que o
> > discurso de Dilma
> > foi a motivação da sua proposta para o encontro.
> >
> > Chehadé citou as denúncias de espionagem envolvendo a
> > comunicação de
> > autoridades e cidadãos brasileiros, dentre eles a própria
> > presidenta, a
> > Petrobras e o Ministério de Minas e Energia. “Vim
> solicitar
> > à presidenta
> > que elevasse sua liderança a um novo nível, de modo a
> > assegurar que
> > todos possamos nos reunir em torno de um novo modelo de
> > governança, em
> > que todos sejamos iguais”, afirmou. O presidente da Icann
> > disse que as
> > futuras decisões sobre como os líderes poderão gerir a
> > internet devem
> > ter como base os princípios do marco civil brasileiro, que
> > tramita no
> > Congresso Nacional.
> >
> > Fadi Chehadé esteve anteontem (7) com o ministro das
> > Comunicações, Paulo
> > Bernardo, a fim de pedir ajuda do Brasil para iniciar os
> > debates sobre
> > mudanças na governança da internet, e disse que as
> > articulações devem
> > começar este ano. Segundo ele, a necessidade de um novo
> > órgão gestor da
> > internet passa pela participação de múltiplos atores,
> não só
> > do governo.
> >
> > “Entendo que a internet tem um novo recurso, que exige
> > participação
> > ativa por parte dos governos, dos seus respectivos
> órgãos no
> > âmbito das
> > Nações Unidas, mas também no âmbito dos usuários, da
> > sociedade civil,
> > dos técnicos, que afinal de contas fazem a internet
> > funcionar”, defendeu
> > Chehadé. Para o presidente da corporação, os acadêmicos e
> > industriais
> > precisam participar do debate, pois refletem sobre o
> direito
> > e fazem a
> > gestão da infraestrutura da internet.
> >
> > O presidente da Icann disse que as empresas de
> > telecomunicações devem
> > também participar da conferência. “Elas são parte
> integrante
> > da família
> > com a qual precisamos trabalhar”, afirmou. Segundo Paulo
> > Bernardo, a
> > presidenta Dilma concordou que as mudanças na
> governança da
> > rede devem
> > ocorrer de forma multilateral e com a participação de
> todos
> > os atores
> > que se envolvem a internet, e disse que não se pode
> > “permitir que
> > interesses econômicos, políticos e religiosos
> interfiram na
> > livre
> > circulação das ideias”. O ministro informou que a sugestão
> > da presidenta
> > é que o evento ocorra em abril de 2014 no Rio de Janeiro.
> >
> > fonte: Agência Brasil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> >
> > Joana Varon Ferraz
> > @joana_varon
> > PGP 0x016B8E73
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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