Additonal issues RE: [governance] Montevideo Statement on the Future of Internet Cooperation

[John Curran]

On Oct 8, 2013, at 8:41 AM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have two (but related) additional issues with the Montevideo document
> 
> The first is the uncritical acceptance of the notion ("reality") of what is
> termed "multistakeholder cooperation".. Given the degree to which that
> term/concept as yet remains ill-defined, non-formalized, contested,
> ambiguous etc. etc. to use it in this way without for example, having an
> addiitonal point recommending some degree of more formally framing/anchoring
> the notion raises significant questions concerning the rest of the
> statement.  If "MS cooperation" is to the active agent for resolving issues
> and we don't have a clear and broadly agreed to notion of what we mean by MS
> cooperation then we really have little at all.

Agreed. In fact, while I think that multistakeholder cooperation (meaning
the ability of all parties to participate in an open and transparent manner) 
has worked very well for technical standards and related registry policy, it
is not apparent that it suffices (at least unchanged) as we begin to look at
the next stage of Internet cooperation.

> Associated with this is the failure to recognize the significance of the
> NSA's subversion of the IETF process. If the NSA chose to subvert that "MS"
> process in the interests of their broad goal of (according to General
> Alexander) "Information dominance", then what other MS process might they
> have or have not subverted in pursuit of the same goal and on what basis can
> we trust or rely on any other MS processes in their current form going
> forward.

Also agreed.  We can hope that awareness of these incidents can help with
awareness to detecting future attempts, but that does not address any other
past occurrences now latent in our processes.

Excellent points both - Thanks!
/John

Disclaimer: My views alone (unless the result of manipulation undetected ;-)
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