[governance] "technical community fails at multistakeholderism". really?

[avri doria]

And it was another chance for them to push ipv6. The sine qua non of any tech community statement.

I find it a very disappointing statement, more consensus boilerplate than substantive contribution.


avri

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From: "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca> 
Date: 10/08/2013  09:19  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>,Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>,governance at lists.igcaucus.org 
Subject: Re: [governance] "technical community fails at multistakeholderism". really? 
 
This sentence is ambiguous: "They expressed strong concern over the undermining of the trust and confidence of Internet users globally due to recent revelations of pervasive monitoring 
and surveillance."

It seems the "leaders" are more concerned by the revelations of surveillance than by surveillance itself.

--c.a.




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C. A. Afonso



-------- Original message --------
From: Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> 
Date: 08-10-2013 02:51 (GMT-03:00) 
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>,governance at lists.igcaucus.org 
Subject: Re: [governance] "technical community fails at multistakeholderism". really? 


Its interesting to contrast this article with the Montevideo statement 
released a little bit later from the technical community. As regards 
criticisms of current internet governance structures, the technical 
community added

" The leaders discussed the clear need to continually strengthen and evolve 
these mechanisms, in truly substantial ways, to be able to address emerging 
issues faced by stakeholders in the Internet."

Note "in truly substantial ways" - that's not accidental text, but a 
recognition that significant change must take place.

Also note the main statements from Montevideo, which were


* They reinforced the importance of globally coherent Internet operations, 
and warned against Internet fragmentation at a national level. They 
expressed strong concern over the undermining of the trust and confidence of 
Internet users globally due to recent revelations of pervasive monitoring 
and surveillance.

*They identified the need for ongoing effort to address Internet Governance 
challenges, and agreed to catalyze community-wide efforts towards the 
evolution of global multistakeholder Internet cooperation.

*They called for accelerating the globalization of ICANN and IANA functions, 
towards an environment in which all stakeholders, including all governments, 
participate on an equal footing.

(there was also a statement re IPv6)

I mention these in this context because there appears to be a lot of common 
ground with the technical community now as regards some of the big 
priorities that must be addressed, and from this statement also a 
recognition that they must improve current mechanisms "in truly substantial 
ways".

That's good news!  There are things that should be criticised in current 
structures, but there is a growing opportunity to work with the technical 
community to address some major points of agreement. I hope that in our 
discussions of the various viewpoints which legitimately are part of our 
thinking on current structures we do not lose the opportunity to work 
closely with the technical community on some over riding policy issues on 
which we have substantial agreement.


Ian Peter

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 3:33 PM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
Subject: [governance] "technical community fails at multistakeholderism". 
really?

http://igfwatch.org/discussion-board/how-the-technical-community-fails-at-multi-stakeholderism

http://www.digitalnewsasia.com/insights/web-consortiums-failures-show-limits-of-self-regulation

forming a consensus that the usual splinter rump minority doesnt agree with 
emphatically does not constitute any sort of failure of multistakeholderism

--srs







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