[governance] "technical community fails at multistakeholderism". really?

[parminder]

Also, John, your response misses the main point of my initial posting 
that if indeed your organisation and others do seek "truly substantive" 
evolution/change, why would you also not say so in response to the WGEC 
questionaire which directly asks the relevant question. Why does the 
responses to WGEC of all signatories to the Montevideo declaration 
clearly look like that they seek *no* " truly substantive" evolution/change?

parminder


On Tuesday 08 October 2013 04:49 PM, John Curran wrote:
> On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:43 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net 
> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>
>> You say that the part "in truly substantial ways" makes the statement 
>> as really serious.... I would take it to be that - really serious - 
>> if they had but mentioned one clear instance of what would be such a 
>> "truly substantial way".
>
> You would not consider the "accelerating the globalization of ICANN 
> and IANA functions,
> towards an environment in which all stakeholders, including all 
> governments, participate
> on an equal footing" to be truly substantial?
>
>> Even if it was perhaps not possible for all the current signatories 
>> to sign off on any "real proposal" right away, can anyone here who 
>> comes close to being one among many representatives of the technical 
>> community propose an example of any such "truly substantial" change 
>> that technical community is now willing to consider, post NSA/ Snowden.
>
> How can there be a proposal of "what should be next" without first 
> having discussions
> of same?  Your faith in "a real proposal" from the Montevideo 
> signatories is appreciated,
> but discussions so that "all stakeholders, including all 
> governments, participate on an
> equal footing" is exactly the type of discussion going on globally in 
> places such as the
> IGF, and there is no clear or even emergent consensus yet that I can 
> discern...
>
> /John
>
> Disclaimer:  My views alone.  No new Internet Governance structures 
> are created via
>                   this email.

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