[governance] EU Commissioner

[Carlos A. Afonso]

A re-enactment of the "year 2000" scare?




------------
C. A. Afonso

-------- Original message --------
From: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> 
Date: 15-11-2013  12:55  (GMT-03:00) 
To: Governance <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,"Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca> 
Cc: Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>,"Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> 
Subject: Re: [governance] EU Commissioner 
 
It will be mildly ironic if among the main results of the Snowden revelations are big boosts to the security-related industry, ICT spending more generally, and EC institution building.  Maybe a good time to invest in Brussels real estate :-)

Bill

On Nov 15, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:

> Fascinating... this is becoming as reentrant as a bunch of dogs in a
> sexual dispute smelling each others' rears...
> 
> Have fun! :)
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 11/15/2013 01:19 AM, William Drake wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> And in a similar vein,
>> 
>> EU should create own spy agency, Reding says
>> http://euobserver.com/justice/121979
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> FYI
>>>> 
>>>> http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-13-922_en.htm
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks Wolfgang.
>>> 
>>> (Neelie Kroes talking about a cloud for europe -- cloud computing based on EU data protection law.)
>>> 
>>> I send a note about this topic a while back, some research for the European Parliament:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>>>> strongly recommend people read Caspar Bowden's work for the European Parliament on PRISM and FISA.  Bowden's been writing about the threat of FISA, etc. for some years, Snowden has made clear just how important his work is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Caspar Bowden speaking at the European Parliament Tuesday Sept 24, 
>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa83l2_ZzEo&feature=youtu.be>  Study referred to in the presentation "The US surveillance programmes and their impact on EU citizens' fundamental rights" <http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2009_2014/documents/libe/dv/briefingnote_/briefingnote_en.pdf>  (need to remember it's all our rights, not just EU citizens).
>>>>> 
>>>>> This earlier document "fighting cyber crime and protecting privacy in the cloud" <http://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/studiesdownload.html?languageDocument=EN&file=790500,d.dGI> very good, BBC article <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21263321> shows Bowden's foresight.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The points he makes about an economic response (without some government regulated nationalist/regionalist policy) are sensible. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> And these:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Siv10PcNTw>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9XRFxevw1Y>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cx_vumGbXM>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Summary of Caspar, Jacob Applebaum, Bruce Schneier others speaking at an event <http://memento.epfl.ch/event/congress-on-privacy-and-surveillance/> in Lausanne on Monday <http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/30/privacy-and-surveillance-jacob-applebaum-caspar-bowden-and-more-speak-in-switzerland> also worth reading.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would be wonderful of the recent EU Parliament document linked above could be used as a briefing document for the Emerging Issues session in Bali.  Unfortunately I don't think Caspar can attend the IGF.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adam
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> W
>>>> 
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>   governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>>> To be removed from the list, visit:
>>>>   http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing
>>>> 
>>>> For all other list information and functions, see:
>>>>   http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
>>>>   http://www.igcaucus.org/
>>>> 
>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>    governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>> To be removed from the list, visit:
>>>    http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing
>>> 
>>> For all other list information and functions, see:
>>>    http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
>>>    http://www.igcaucus.org/
>>> 
>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t
>> 
>> 
> 
> ____________________________________________________________
> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> To be removed from the list, visit:
>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing
> 
> For all other list information and functions, see:
>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
>     http://www.igcaucus.org/
> 
> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.igcaucus.org/pipermail/governance/attachments/20131115/9f81b49c/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
____________________________________________________________
You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
     governance at lists.igcaucus.org
To be removed from the list, visit:
     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing

For all other list information and functions, see:
     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
     http://www.igcaucus.org/

Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t