[governance] DMP} Proposed letter on role of Brazil liaisons

[Carlos A. Afonso]

Good, Adam. As we say here in Rio: "muita calma nessa hora!" :)

[]s fraternos

--c.a.

On 11/14/2013 09:04 AM, Adam Peake wrote:
> An announcement from Brazil about the meeting is expected any time now.  Please do not send any letter until the Brazilian government's plans are clear. 
> 
> Adam
> 
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote:
> 
>> [with IGC coordinator hat on]
>>
>> Is there any way for this opposition "on principle" to be reconciled
>> with the intention behind to proposed letter on the role of the
>> liaisons?
>>
>> If not, full consensus will clearly not be possible on this matter,
>> and it may be appropriate to use the rough consensus process.
>>
>> There was very strong support for what this letter has been proposed to
>> express among the IGC members who participated in person in the
>> relevant discussions in Bali.
>>
>> The rough consensus process which is explicitly allowed by the IGC
>> Charter could be implemented for example by means of using online
>> polling software to determine whether there is an overwhelming majority
>> of IGC members in support of such a letter. According to the Charter,
>> such a rough consensus poll has to run at least 48 hours, then the
>> coordinators would jointly decide to interpret the result as "rough
>> consensus" or not. (That is of course a decision that can be appealed if
>> desired.)
>>
>> But we should certainly discuss the matter first.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Norbert
>>
>>
>> Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I will oppose this on principle as drawing any sort of artificial
>>> distinction between the technical community and civil society is
>>> counterproductive in the long run.
>>>
>>> --srs (iPad)
>>>
>>>> On 14-Nov-2013, at 15:29, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 14/11/13 12:00, parminder wrote:
>>>>>>> Once again, as suggested by Matthew, I do believe a formal letter
>>>>>>> nominating and explaining our role as liasons, and not
>>>>>>> representatives, for International Civil Society for information
>>>>>>> regarding the Summit will be good to legitimate and help our job
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A formal letter naming our liaisons and making it clear that
>>>>>> global civil society would want to use this mechanism to
>>>>>> coordinate its role in the proposed Brazil meeting and not go
>>>>>> through 1net or any other tehcnical community led interface is of
>>>>>> the highest priority at this stage. Dont want to get into
>>>>>> I-told-you-so mode, but I have been insisting that we did that
>>>>>> first and in clear terms since our earliest meetings in Bali. If
>>>>>> we have got such a communication through in clear terms, maybe
>>>>>> our four reps would have been there at the above meeting. At
>>>>>> least if they werent invited we could have protested...
>>>>>
>>>>> Draft letter is here: http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/brazil-reps
>>>>
>>>> Looks good to me.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> Norbert
>>
>>
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