[governance] Content filtering and jurisdiction of cyberspace

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

True. Do remind me to get coffee before, the next time

If there actually is a fire.. :)

--srs (htc one x)



On 31 May 2013 5:09:07 AM "James S. Tyre" <jstyre at jstyre.com> wrote:
> A digression, to be sure, but Suresh, it’s falsely shouting fire in a 
> crowded theater.
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> A truly excellent blog post on that subject is at 
> http://www.popehat.com/2012/09/19/three-generations-of-a-hackneyed-apologia-for-censorship-are-enough/
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> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org 
> [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Suresh 
> Ramasubramanian
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:29 PM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Kabani
> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Faisal Hasan; Chapter Delegates; ISOC 
> Chapter Support
> Subject: Re: [governance] Content filtering and jurisdiction of cyberspace
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> This has to be handled and presented carefully.  Because Google at least 
> has to take first amendment protections for free speech into account when 
> deciding what content to take down
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> The first amendment is quite broad but does have specific limits and 
> exceptions ("shouting fire in a crowded theater" is an example).
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> The suggestion of having a local instance of Google where a country's 
> national censorship applies - well, it isn't cheap or easy to do, so Google 
> may comply, refuse to comply and get blocked, or simply - like mainland 
> china, where they apparently faced attacks as well, just exit the market.
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>
> --srs (iPad)
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> On 31-May-2013, at 3:33, Kabani <kabani.asif at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Faisal,
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> We can understand the problem you have highlighted, since we are in same 
> boat, as you also aware pakistan has similar problem that YouTube is 
> blocked based on the content. Till to date google has not been able to 
> solve the problem with govt.
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> Sad to hear about the deaths of people. Let us all sit together and  try to 
> solve the issue together as one society.
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> Technical and policy, advice from, community pl.
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> Sincerely
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> On Friday, 31 May 2013, Faisal Hasan wrote:
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> Dear Friends,
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> Bangladesh Govt. plans to filter internet contents. We know that this 
> option of filtering is not a solution, instead efforts must be taken to 
> remove content from the source. The move actually stemmed from Google’s 
> refusal to take down the trailer of a religiously sensitive film from its 
> website Youtube.com. Bangladesh even asked Google to install a mirror 
> server for Bangladesh nine months ago so that such videos could be filtered 
> out. Youtube is still blocked in Bangladesh since last September.  
> Recently, in Bangladesh the Internet has become a double edged sword which 
> is used not only by activists to raise voice for legitimate reasons but 
> also by some bad politicians to provoke innocent people to create deadly 
> violence. We have already have had 'our spring' last February. Clearly, the 
> government is in a dire situation.
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> From our chapter we are initiating a dialogue with the government in two 
> weeks time. We would like to get your inputs about this issue. I know many 
> govts have implemented filtering like this and all most all the report I 
> have seen suggest that this does more harm than good for the people. The 
> situation in a country like Bangladesh deserves special care as there are 
> millions of people here who donot have basic education and are easily 
> agitated by inappropriate/fake content. To give you an idea about the 
> seriousness of the issue, I would say that in a single day in February 40 
> people were dead!
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> Please let us know what you think can be done? What is the alternative? 
> Does global companies have more responsibility in making their policies 
> such that it takes care about issues in developing countries?
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> Thanks
>
> Faisal Hasan, PhD
>
> Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter
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