[governance] The noose is closing on global Internet and other enabled tax dodging

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

I am sorry, please correct me if I am wrong, but there was some talk of multistakeholderism.

If any action at all by a stakeholder group is continuously disparaged in one term or the other, generally suggesting mens rea  - "astroturfing", say - this argues that, while you accept that corporations are actors in the IG field, you view their every action as negative and to be opposed.  Funnily enough, that apparently extends even to actions where they might make common cause with civil society.

--srs (iPad)

On 23-May-2013, at 13:20, Riaz K Tayob <riaz.tayob at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On 2013/05/22 03:23 PM, McTim wrote:
>> Indeed, there are some folk who think they can be the arbiter of who
>> is in which SH group.
> 
> It is not a matter of who is an arbiter or not, imho.
> 
> It is about the practice of astro-turfing... wrapping up corporate interest as public interest. In a representative system, this is not a problem. In a deliberative system, it can be. A contest of interest may be a means of social organisation, but that does not necessary imply it is reasonable. A rational method does not guarantee a reasoned outcome. If reason fails in the articulalation of a position or policy, then the interest may be valid, but its ability to garner consensus is difficult if deliberative, and depending on numbers easy if representative. Hence compositional issues are important, if we are to avoid fallacy of composition. Which is why some USers on this list may yawn when it comes to the regulatory revolving door in the US and other places because the state as a site for deliberative politics is in my view not fully understood.
> 
>> correct.  if we want to blame someone, let's blame the folk who wrote
>> the current rules!
> As argued previously, yes the problem can be what is legal. Like ICANN/DOC arrangments....
> 
> While general population gets the Sequester in the US (cutting even air traffic controllers) big corporates get tax loopholes to fly through... meanwhile the Banks get 'cash for trash'.
> 
> How does this relate to Internet Governance. Corporates are actors in the IG field, thus understanding their role, and consequently seat at the MS table is important. It may not meet some precision standards, but it is hardly a matter that is irrelevant...
> 
> 
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