[governance] Geneva

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Thu May 9 03:39:30 EDT 2013 

Seems to me like if we have a civil society org (isoc? apc?) that can

1. Negotiate a discounted rate with one or two auberges
2. Make these rates available to civil society at large (such as say caucus members)

It might be an idea.  

ITU does have negotiated rates with a wide variety of hotels in GVA and just outside, for hotels ranging from seven star to no-name auberge .. but these usually get filled up in no time at all.

Maybe at an alternate location like Lausanne, Annecy etc to make it more feasible.

--srs (iPad)

On 09-May-2013, at 12:53, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:

> During the busiest weeks there are few cities more expensive than
> Geneva. Can pick up a room in a village like Annecy, but for Geneva
> itself many hundreds if $$$.  Terrible city for meetings.  Very
> expensive and food as well.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <nashton at consensus.pro> wrote:
>> There is also Lausanne - 40 minutes by train, with trains very often into
>> the night and from early morning - and also much less expensive than GVA.
>> 
>> On 9 May 2013, at 03:46, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Expensive even if you stay across the border in ferney?  Prices there seem
>> to be a fraction of what they are in gva proper. And no end of hole in the
>> wall auberges ..
>> 
>> --srs (iPad)
>> 
>> On 09-May-2013, at 6:43, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On 08/05/2013, at 9:59 PM, William Drake <william.drake at UZH.CH> wrote:
>> 
>> In years past it was the practice before the May meetings to ask who is
>> going to be in Geneva when, try to organize a caucus or CS meeting, maybe do
>> a joint statement about something, and so on.  Is anything along these lines
>> contemplated for this year?  We have stuff going on over a four week period:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm only going to be able to make it for the first week (Geneva is so
>> expensive!), but would be glad to get together with some other caucus folk
>> while I'm there.  Regarding a joint statement, the Best Bits group is
>> putting one together for the WTPF, and I would support the caucus issuing
>> one for the IGF open consultations and MAG meeting as has already been
>> discussed, focusing on the implementation of the recommendations on IGF
>> improvements.
>> 
>> *I was just looking at the documentation for the ITU's WTPF 14 to 16 May and
>> note that there's only one civil society submission (from D. Brown, A.
>> Doria, N. Nwakanma, M. Shears) and the ISOC submission.  Probably the caucus
>> would be unable to reach consensus on something related to Draft Opinion 6:
>> on supporting operationalizing the enhanced cooperation process.  But one
>> would have thought that some comment on Draft Opinion 5: Supporting
>> Multi-stakeholderism in Internet Governance might have been possible….
>> 
>> 
>> You're aware though, I presume, that the reason why there is only one civil
>> society submission is because the ITU is not receiving civil society
>> submissions?  The only reason why the Brown/Doria/Nwakanma/Shears statement
>> is up there is because they are members of the Informal Experts Group (IEG).
>> I've written a statement for Consumers International (which is at
>> http://a2knetwork.org/sites/default/files/wtpf_position_statement.pdf), but
>> the ITU has refused to receive it.
>> 
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