On talking about hypocrisy (was Re: [governance] CSTD WG on Enhanced Cooperation)

Riaz Tayob riaz.tayob at gmail.com
Tue May 7 09:02:41 EDT 2013


It is not mumbo jumbo... merely pointing out the sameness of peculiarities
we all bring to the table...


On 7 May 2013 14:05, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote:

> Diaz
>
> Why this mumbo-jumbo of "third world provincialism"
>
> I ask that because I hail from the provocative "third world" where
> people from the "first world" come to assassinate, maim and pilfer
> resources while enthrenching malfeasance to please their whims and
> calprices.
>
> I have finally descovered that this forum has become an arena where
> people lash out phrases at reckless abandon.
>
> Too bad
>
> Aaron
>
> On 5/7/13, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> > Thanks. Kind of helpful. One thing:
> >
> > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Riaz K Tayob <riaz.tayob at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> There are many ways to answer this question. And is in a range. With
> lots
> >> of
> >> fudging...
> >>
> >> There is a the generous view McTim espoused recently. Then the apposite
> >> RPerry 'absurd and self-evident'.
> >>
> >> Then there is the experience of Auerbach, MM Ruling the Root, and of
> >> course
> >> 'if it aint broke don't fix it' to the 'you are crazy' - in historical
> >> time
> >> of this list.
> >
> > The list position, best I recall, has never been 'if it aint broke
> > don't fix it'.  Quite the opposite.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >> This of course is not technical, but about how tendencies in
> >> 'groups' are projected/interpreted in the POLITICAL realm. Technically
> we
> >> know there was monovalent position on CIR when as RP puts it was
> >> bivalent.
> >> We know the score :)
> >>
> >> For technical definitions I think KR and DR and perhaps Auerbach may be
> >> more
> >> up your alley, as I am not inclined to anachronistic views, and
> >> revisionism.
> >> Auerbach's Cave Bear may still be one of the best resources, if you are
> >> interested in a critical perspective. And as Norbert changed the tenor
> >> here,
> >> so will just let sleeping dogs lie regarding my personal experiences.
> >>
> >> But by the 1rooter debate precedent was set by this in the IGC and it is
> >> a
> >> flexibility I interpret to afford 'us' equal space to make claims in
> >> which
> >> we are able to define 'the terms of the terms' of engagement. A rather
> >> difficult and tedious process - intellectual diversity is certainly not
> >> the
> >> IGC's forte.
> >>
> >> There is very little in common, despite what McTim suggests, in some of
> >> the
> >> positions too - although with a legitimate structure a single root would
> >> be
> >> less offensive (for instance MMs and McT's internationalisation are
> >> definitely not how I see it - to bring issues up to date the 'evolved 1
> >> rooters' (and then some) and my kinda ilk).
> >>
> >> Political lines are drawn rather clearly. I can't make you feel good
> >> about
> >> your positions, nor can you about mine. That is just politics.
> >>
> >> Riaz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2013/05/07 09:17 AM, Adam Peake wrote:
> >>
> >> What is a "single-rooter"?
> >>
> >>
> >>
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