On talking about hypocrisy (was Re: [governance] CSTD WG on Enhanced Cooperation)

[Adam Peake]

Thanks. Kind of helpful. One thing:

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Riaz K Tayob <riaz.tayob at gmail.com> wrote:
> There are many ways to answer this question. And is in a range. With lots of
> fudging...
>
> There is a the generous view McTim espoused recently. Then the apposite
> RPerry 'absurd and self-evident'.
>
> Then there is the experience of Auerbach, MM Ruling the Root, and of course
> 'if it aint broke don't fix it' to the 'you are crazy' - in historical time
> of this list.

The list position, best I recall, has never been 'if it aint broke
don't fix it'.  Quite the opposite.

Adam



> This of course is not technical, but about how tendencies in
> 'groups' are projected/interpreted in the POLITICAL realm. Technically we
> know there was monovalent position on CIR when as RP puts it was bivalent.
> We know the score :)
>
> For technical definitions I think KR and DR and perhaps Auerbach may be more
> up your alley, as I am not inclined to anachronistic views, and revisionism.
> Auerbach's Cave Bear may still be one of the best resources, if you are
> interested in a critical perspective. And as Norbert changed the tenor here,
> so will just let sleeping dogs lie regarding my personal experiences.
>
> But by the 1rooter debate precedent was set by this in the IGC and it is a
> flexibility I interpret to afford 'us' equal space to make claims in which
> we are able to define 'the terms of the terms' of engagement. A rather
> difficult and tedious process - intellectual diversity is certainly not the
> IGC's forte.
>
> There is very little in common, despite what McTim suggests, in some of the
> positions too - although with a legitimate structure a single root would be
> less offensive (for instance MMs and McT's internationalisation are
> definitely not how I see it - to bring issues up to date the 'evolved 1
> rooters' (and then some) and my kinda ilk).
>
> Political lines are drawn rather clearly. I can't make you feel good about
> your positions, nor can you about mine. That is just politics.
>
> Riaz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2013/05/07 09:17 AM, Adam Peake wrote:
>
> What is a "single-rooter"?
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>      governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> To be removed from the list, visit:
>      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing
>
> For all other list information and functions, see:
>      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
>      http://www.igcaucus.org/
>
> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t
>

-------------- next part --------------
____________________________________________________________
You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
     governance at lists.igcaucus.org
To be removed from the list, visit:
     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing

For all other list information and functions, see:
     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
     http://www.igcaucus.org/

Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t