[governance] CSTD WG on Enhanced Cooperation

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Tue May 7 00:41:57 EDT 2013


On Monday 06 May 2013 09:13 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
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> It can concern us.
>
> But I have no role in calling for the Indian government to be more transparent or with regard to its ways doing things except with regard to Human Rights and other treaties treaties they have signed.


This is one of the strongest statements i have ever heard in support of 
the Westphalian model of complete sovereignty . I did not know that you, 
Avri, were such a keen supporter of that model.

I completely disagree with such a formula of non interference and 
indifference, and believe in the concept of one public interest across 
stakeholder groups, and also one global public interest across 
countries, which is the job of respective polities (national and global) 
to discover and establish  - this is basic democratic theory. (I also 
refuse to believe that all that there is to global public interest is 
already locked in existing treaties.)

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> The Internet may be borderless, but countries and stakeholder groups have borders.

But, good you mention borders of stakeholder groups. However, one notes 
that there is (1) a lack of clarity about any such borders/ boundaries 
maintained by the most enthusiastic supporters of MSism and (2) 
considerable opportunistic movements across borders..... Recently we 
were denied a clear picture about the borders of the technical and 
academic community stakeholder group  . A few year earlier it was 
insisted that an office holder of a key technical organisation in the 
Internet space (an RIR) should be nominated by civil society as a rep 
for some body in a show of oneness across civil society and technical 
community....

parminder


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