[governance] Spamhaus

[Chaitanya Dhareshwar]

If it's a one time damage to the infra, it could be repaired or replaced -
expensive yes but there's a definite end and workable solution (of course
prevention better than cure).

In a DDoS the scale of which has never been seen before - what's the end
point? Either the spammers give up or ... (what is the other alternative)?

-C

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<suresh at hserus.net>wrote:

> DDoS attacks are actually quite old hat - except that they keep increasing
> in scale and virulence
>
> This is an even scarier thing if the story checks out -
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/egypt-naval-forces-capture-3-scuba-divers-trying-to-sabotage-undersea-internet-cable/2013/03/27/dd2975ec-9725-11e2-a976-7eb906f9ed9b_story.html
>
> --srs (iPad)
>
> On 28-Mar-2013, at 11:27, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> In fact this may just be the world war 3 we've been hoping won't happen.
> Most wars arent recognized as world wars at their beginning, but if it'll
> affect the internet across the planet and involve smart people trying to
> find ways of destroying each other's IT infra, I fear it could rapidly
> escalate.
>
> -C
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Afonso,
>>
>> If the whole world can feel the sting of the feud, it means that there
>> needs to be more questions asked as well as solutions that will come
>> from all quarters, tech-community, lawyers, entrepreneurs evrybody has
>> to join hands otherwise such disastrous effects may be here to stay.
>>
>> Regards
>> Gideon
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I have been reporting cases revealing the absurd autonomy antispam
>>> businesses have, our services being one of the thousands of victims. Now it
>>> seems that finally more voices are joining in trying to at least discuss
>>> the issues.
>>>
>>> We have all of our addresses perfectly identified in *thick* WHOIS, we
>>> keep to all rules regarding relating our addresses to our services, and
>>> still we eventually get caught by an antispam "service" proposing we pay
>>> them money to get out of it. I recall the case of the infamous Barracuda,
>>> which sells antispam software, as the first to try and extort money from
>>> us. Since we protested in quite strong terms and made a bit of a noise,
>>> they left us alone. But there are plenty of others.
>>>
>>> Where is the technical community when we need it? :)
>>>
>>> frt rgds
>>>
>>> --c.a.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/27/2013 10:33 AM, Deirdre Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>> And meanwhile, quietly, and apparently below the radar ...
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/**technology-21954636<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21954636>
>>>> Deirdre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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