[governance] Spamhaus

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

RFC 6471 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6471) is an informational RFC, produced through the IRTF,  to which several regulars at the MAAWG (www.maawg.org) conference have contributed, on DNS blocklist and whitelist best practices.

In particular please see section 2.2.5 on conflict of interest which says that while a dnsbl may be run as a commercial proposition by charging a fee from sites that use it, it MUST not charge for the removal of a listing, as this "steers periliously close to notions of extortion, blackmail or a protection racket".

--srs (iPad)

On 28-Mar-2013, at 8:09, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Suresh on Spamhaus being one of the more focused and well-operated DNSBLs out there. I've used them over years and have had superb performance and very effective spam filtering. If they blocked off someone, it's a very rare possibility that the message is good.
>  
> We did maintain a positive whitelist to ensure our key clients dont get "filtered" out though; but thats a different matter... Spamhaus had put up something about a whitelist they're working on; which I think was invite-only when I last checked.
>  
> -C
> 
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>> Barracuda is a single vendor .. One out of two or three comparatively more obscure ones that seem to do this.
>> 
>> In the over a decade spamhaus has operated I have not seen spamhaus people take a single penny from anyone at all in matters to do with listing or removal of IPs.
>> 
>> Did you get listed by spamhaus ever?  I am not counting any of the dozens of poorly operated blocklists out there, most of which have one guy and his family dog using them compared to spamhaus that has a footprint of billions of mailboxes across ISPs, civil society organizations, industry and individuals with their own mail servers using it.
>> 
>> --srs (iPad)
>> 
>> On 27-Mar-2013, at 23:20, "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> > I have been reporting cases revealing the absurd autonomy antispam businesses have, our services being one of the thousands of victims. Now it seems that finally more voices are joining in trying to at least discuss the issues.
>> >
>> > We have all of our addresses perfectly identified in *thick* WHOIS, we keep to all rules regarding relating our addresses to our services, and still we eventually get caught by an antispam "service" proposing we pay them money to get out of it. I recall the case of the infamous Barracuda, which sells antispam software, as the first to try and extort money from us. Since we protested in quite strong terms and made a bit of a noise, they left us alone. But there are plenty of others.
>> >
>> > Where is the technical community when we need it? :)
>> >
>> > frt rgds
>> >
>> > --c.a.
>> >
>> > On 03/27/2013 10:33 AM, Deirdre Williams wrote:
>> >> And meanwhile, quietly, and apparently below the radar ...
>> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21954636
>> >> Deirdre
>> >
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