[governance] Tallin Manual - a Cyber Warfare convention?

[parminder]

On Saturday 23 March 2013 11:43 AM, Ian Peter wrote:
> I just read through the principles outlined in this document and am 
> extremely concerned at some of the implications of extending normal 
> warfare “principles” to cyber infrastructure, attempts to define 
> territoriality in this space, and some of the concepts that applied in 
> guns and warships style conflicts being extended into cyberspace – 
> like combatants wearing uniforms to distinguish themselves from 
> civilians. And many other arguments based on 1940s international law 
> that really should not apply.
> This, unfortunately, is a document from “credible” sources and is 
> likely to have impact on NATO thinking. Therefore it is extremely 
> concerning. I am interested in the reactions of people on this list 
> who are more knowledgeable in this area.

I dont claim to be more knowledgeable, but from the little I know how 
political affairs get conducted: it is best to have larger, more open 
discussions on such issues, where the less powerful countries are also 
involved. While some were always more equal then others, the trend has 
worsened in the IG space, where it is also almost normatively accepted 
that it is ok that the game be played among the biggies. Civil society 
normally plays the normative and democracy-seeking role, and expanding 
global governance spaces to include smaller countries equally, but 
regrettably, not in the IG space.

Secondly, and there have been some strange comments in this regard as 
late as in the last few day - lets understand and accept that Internet 
governance is not about some rather insignificant issue of CIRs 
management, it is about so many much bigger issues, very central to the 
future of our societies. Again, civil society has a big role in defining 
this larger issue-scape rather than digging our collective head in the 
CIR sands, becuase it gives us a very good and saleable slogan of 
'mutistakeholderism is sought to be replaced by UN inter-gov-ism'. And 
the most powerful countires want us to keep using this slogan 
exclusively and do nothing else. In all other IG areas, the strong 
control of Northern governments on how our future is evolving is so very 
clear that is does not admit to 'MSism being replaced by UNism" slogan, 
and thus civil society should be kept away from grasping and taking up 
these more important other IG issues.


parminder
> Ian Peter
> *From:* Ian Peter <mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:40 PM
> *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org 
> <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> *Subject:* [governance] Tallin Manual - a Cyber Warfare convention?
> As Samuel Morse might have remarked, “What God hath wrought”.
> A landmark document created at the request of NATO has proposed a set 
> of rules for how international cyberwarfare should be conducted. 
> Written by 20 experts in conjunction with the International Committee 
> of the Red Cross and the US Cyber Command, the/Tallinn Manual on the 
> International Law Applicable to Cyber Warfare/ 
> <http://issuu.com/nato_ccd_coe/docs/tallinnmanual?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&showFlipBtn=true>analyzes 
> the rules of conventional war and applies them to state-sponsored 
> cyberattacks.
> http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/21/4130740/tallin-manual-on-the-international-law-applicable-to-cyber-warfare
>
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