[governance] COMMENTS SOUGHT: draft letter to ISOC on selection of T&A nominees for CSTD WG on EC
michael gurstein
gurstein at gmail.com
Mon Mar 18 11:31:12 EDT 2013
Bill,
You have willfully ignored my comments concerning the issues below.
Yes, for some purposes and specifically those concerning my normative
positions in support of achieving the widest possible use of the Internet
and particularly by otherwise marginalized or excluded populations I
consider myself part of Civil Society and have widely presented myself as
such. Yes, I think that the Internet SHOULD be made accessible and usable by
all.
For other purposes specifically those concerning my
professional/academic/research activities in support of realizing the widest
possible use of the internet and particularly by otherwise marginalized or
excluded populations I consider myself a member of the wider technical and
academic community also professionally concerned with these issues. Yes, I
think that the Internet CAN be made accessible and usable by all.
My comments to the Chair CSTD were in the context of my latter role and
specifically where, in response to my request to be considered as a member
of the WG EC on behalf of the T/A I was provided with a range of definitions
and criteria concerning membership within that grouping none of which were
presented as having any basis apart from "understandings" based on
"checking" with "colleagues especially those who participated in the WSIS
processes".
Please note also that I have no interest in attempting to be a member of a
group for which I am not appropriately qualified but nor am I willing to be
arbitrarily excluded from a group exercising a public responsibility whose
covenant is self-defined and non-transparently exclusionary.
Further I would have no interest in pursuing my "non-selection" in a process
for which the procedures and criteria were clear, transparent and
even-handedly applied. Since I have still not received an answer to the
question I posed to Ms. Bommelaer several days ago concerning the specific
procedures employed in this nomination process and Ms. Bommelaer's reply
(notably and discourteously to Ms. Esterhuysen rather to myself) concerning
these matters i.e. "The names put forward were subject to considerable
discussion as well as oral dialogue with many individuals from Civil Society
and the Business community (including their focal points). The criteria used
were shared with all interested individuals as well as with the UN" is
clearly insufficiently transparent in the circumstances, I see no recourse
but to make an appropriate representation directly to the Chair CTSD.
In the further interests of transparency I am attaching a very lightly
edited set of the correspondence specifically concerned with the selection
process to which Ms. Bommalaer refers in her message to the IGC list.
M
-----Original Message-----
From: michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:02 AM
To: 'bommelaer at isoc.org'
Subject: Hello Constance
Hi Constance,
...
I understand that you are the focal point for the Technical and Academic
component of nominations for the CSTD Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation.
I have an interest in presenting myself for nomination within the Academic
component -- as an academic researcher in Community Informatics -- which has
a specific concern for the grassroots/community uses of ICTs.
As I believe you know, I have been quite active in the Internet Governance
Caucus (and am going to be one of the speakers on behalf of Civil Society at
the upcoming WSIS+10 review) but in this instance I would look to wear my
most prominent "hat", and the one that I use for my day job which is that of
an academic/researcher and it is that background, experience and perspective
that I would look to bring to the proposed Working Group.
Perhaps you could let me know what the procedures and deadlines are for
nomination/self-nomination/endorsement etc. for this position. Also, if you
are going to be at the WSIS+10 review and you think it worthwhile perhaps we
could have a chat to discuss this.
With best wishes,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 7:28 PM
To: 'Constance Bommelaer'
Subject: RE: Hello Constance
Hi Constance,
I don't think that I heard back from you re: the process that should be
followed concerning presentation of myself as an "academic" candidate. I
have a number of people/groups waiting to send endorsements and I'm not sure
who they should be sent to, if there is format that you prefer, deadlines
and so on.
I'm going to be quite busy for the next couple of weeks here in Europe I
have a couple of academic events in the UK after this one so if I could hear
back from you concerning the above asap that would be very useful.
Tks,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Constance Bommelaer [mailto:bommelaer at isoc.org]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 1:12 AM
To: michael gurstein
Subject: Re: Hello Constance
Hi Michael,
I have checked with other colleagues especially those who participated in
the WSIS processes. I understand that "the academic and technical
communities" mentioned in the TAIS refers to the scientists who developed
the Internet and the technical organizations/people who run it, and not to
social scientists and the like.
Would you consider approaching Anriette Esterhuysen who I believe is
coordinating the Civil Society group?
Best,
Constance
-----Original Message-----
From: michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 2:12 AM
To: Constance Bommelaer
Subject: Re: Hello Constance
Hi Constance,
I could be wrong but I would have thought that the concern was to include
the range of research expertise that has been involved in both the
development and implementation of the Internet and I and a very large range
of colleagues have worked in these areas from almost the very beginnings of
Internet development.
Certainly my research/academic colleagues in this area would see themselves
as being in a position to make a positive contribution based on their
research and academic activities and leaving the pursuit of more normative
elements in these areas to where it properly belongs in Civil Society. So
unless there is a formal decision that would restrict this I would very much
prefer to have my candidacy reviewed in this category.
Best,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Constance Bommelaer [mailto:bommelaer at isoc.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:26 AM
To: michael gurstein
Subject: your bio
Hi Michael,
Can you please send me your biography. I am currently compiling the list of
interested individuals for the CSTD WG on Enhanced Cooperation. I may end up
with more candidates than seats but I am collecting expressions of interest
at this stage.
Thank you and best regards,
--
Constance Bommelaer
Director, Public Policy
The Internet Society
www.isoc.org
-----Original Message-----
From: michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:01 PM
To: 'Constance Bommelaer'
Subject: RE: your bio
Hi Constance,
I'll send you a brief bio and a full (if slightly out of date) academic
resume.
Best and thanks,
M
---------------------------------
On 3/5/13 9:26 AM, michael gurstein wrote:
> Hi Constance,
>
> I'm just enquiring whether you have sufficient information from me to
> proceed with your work as the focal point in the technical/academic
> grouping.
>
> I'm also interested to know what your procedures will be with respect
> to forwarding the names that have been brought forward. As you
> perhaps know the IGC has had a formal nomcom process which has now
> reported and I was wondering if you were undertaking a counterpart
process?
>
> Best,
>
> Mike
>
-----Original Message-----
From: Constance Bommelaer [mailto:bommelaer at isoc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:31 AM
To: michael gurstein
Subject: Re: Hi Constance: Re: ECWG
Hi Michael,
Thank you for your note.
I am currently compiling the list of expressions of interest I have
received.
The criteria used are:
- Gender and geographic balance
- Familiarity with the WSIS process
- Ability to travel (no funding available)
- Willingness and ability to dedicate some time to the working group
- Representing the technical and academic communities
I will complete the process on Friday and get back to you then.
Best regards,
Constance
-----Original Message-----
From: bommelaer at isoc.org [mailto:bommelaer at isoc.org]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:32 AM
To: michael gurstein
Subject: CSTD WG on EC
Dear Michael,
Thank you four your interest in the CSTD Working Group on Enhanced
Cooperation nomination process.
I have sent to the UN the names of all the individuals who have expressed an
interest. However, I have not personally recommended your nomination as I
felt other individuals met better the criteria.
The Chair of the CSTD will nominate the members of the Working Group.
Thanks again for your interest and best regards,
Constance Bommelaer
-----Original Message-----
From: michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:02 AM
To: 'bommelaer at isoc.org'
Subject: RE: CSTD WG on EC
Thank you for getting back Constance.
In the interests of transparency would it be possible to indicate "the
criteria" that you mention (in your note) as the basis on which your
recommendation was made and also the names of those who you recommended to
the Chair as more closely meeting those criteria.
My colleagues I'm sure, will have an interest in this for future such
opportunities.
Tks,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:12 PM
To: 'bommelaer at isoc.org'
Subject: RE: CSTD WG on EC
Hi Constance,
I haven't heard back from you and as the process is, I believe, moving
forward on the UN side I do want to make sure that my 'nomination' was
considered appropriately and within what I assume are the applicable
procedures i.e. those that cover the selection from the various stakeholder
groups to the MAG as made explicit in the report of the CSTD WG on
Improvements to the IGF.
Transparency and accountability are, I'm sure we agree, necessary
pre-conditions to an effective multi-stakeholder process hence my concern to
ensure that this is realized in this instance as in others.
Sincerely,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: bommelaer at isoc.org [mailto:bommelaer at isoc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:18 AM
To: michael gurstein
Subject: Re: CSTD WG on EC
Hi Michael,
That is not what I said. All categories of stakeholders play an important
role in developing accessibility to the Internet, the Civil Society, the
Business community and the technical and academic community. Hence the
importance of multi-stakeholderism.
My interpretation of the technical and academic community includes
individuals who have technically built the Internet.
In addition, your leading and representation role within the Civil Society
including at the WSIS+10 conference last February leads to some confusion.
Did you also express an interest to represent the Civil Society in this
process?
Best regards,
Constance
-----Original Message-----
From: michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:48 AM
To: 'bommelaer at isoc.org'
Subject: RE: CSTD WG on EC
Hi Constance,
Thanks for the clarification and I understand your definition of
"technically built the Internet", however, that isn't what was said nor
based on your earlier comments is it I believe, a formal definition provided
from the UN CTSD.
Certainly, I have had a leading role in certain activities of Civil Society
including WSIS +10, but similarly leading actors from the technical
community have also had a representative role in Civil Society from time to
time (Avri Doria comes immediately to mind) and as you know the technical
community has and continues to play an extremely active role in the (civil
society) Internet Governance Caucus.
I think we must agree that the lines are somewhat fuzzy here. Further, at
least on your initial criteria of "contributing to the building of the
Internet" (which I think, at this time of a degree of technical "maturity"
of the Internet, is perhaps an even more appropriate one), I would
anticipate being highly commendable as a representative of the
"technical/academic" community including to the WG on EC. In that context I
would foresee speaking as an academic/researcher in the area of user issues
concerning the Internet including making the Internet more accessible and
particularly to those at the margins and in LDC's.
But perhaps we have now exhausted this conversation, and since I don't
foresee us reaching consensus on this perhaps, with your permission, we
could send this correspondence to the Chair of the CTSD to adjudicate on the
matter of the definition of what is meant by the "technical and academic"
stakeholder group.
Best,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
[mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of William Drake
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:41 AM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder
Subject: Re: [governance] COMMENTS SOUGHT: draft letter to ISOC on selection
of T&A nominees for CSTD WG on EC
Hi Parminder
Earlier, one of our members wrote to the head of the CSTD and asked that he
not accept nominations from the T (no A) C stakeholder group until he's
satisfied with their decision not to select him as their rep. And so
on.nothing adversarial?
Bill
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