[governance] COMMENTS SOUGHT: draft letter to ISOC on selection of T&A nominees for CSTD WG on EC

[parminder]

On Saturday 16 March 2013 09:46 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I do not support sending a letter.
>
> If indeed they are being treated as another Stakeholder group, I do not see what job we have interfering with their selection processes. Just as we would be highly offended if they told Civil Society how to select candidates.
>
> I am not making a judgement on any candidate or on their process, which I know nothing about. Or even on the issue of whether they should be treated as a separate Stakeholder group. I just think it is not our business to comment on their process or criteria.

Avri

Are you saying that if the business community focal point was to send 
out a message that only representatives of businesses that have an 
annual turnover in excess of $ I billion may apply to be considered for 
for private sector membership of the CSTD WG, we as in the IGC should 
have nothing to say?

Or, even if UN comes up with a process whereby government membership 
CSTD WG is based on the GDP of a country, the IGC should have nothing to 
say?


This is the problem with a certain kind of MSism - a very poor 
conception of the fact that all political processes are aimed at a 
common public interest. Accordingly, all public actors involved in the 
process are accountable to the people, and to every and any other public 
actor...... This is how I see this kind of MSism causing grievous hurt 
to democracy, and all tenets of public life.


When you say that the focal points for chosing 'technical and academic 
community' representatives have no accountability to a civil society 
group and we cannot ask questions from them, you are saying that they 
have no accountability to the public. I am really shocked to hear this. 
I have no idea what your conception of civil society really is, and 
those of others who have come up with similar views. I think we as IGC 
need to figure out who we are, and what we think civil society is, and 
what all are its purposes etc......

*/I will like to have a clear articulation from this group, if needed 
through a vote, whether we really think that focal points for selecting 
reps of different stakeholders for a public body have no accountability 
to the public, and whether a civil society group can or cannot 
legitimately ask transparency and accountability related questions 
/**/from them./*

This point of process perhaps must be clarified before we go into the 
substance of our questions to the focal point for 'tech and academic 
communities'.


parminder


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> avri
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> On 15 Mar 2013, at 19:05, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
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>> Following on from discussions in the main thread on this topic (I'm starting a new thread to improve visibility), I have quickly drafted a letter that outlines the concerns that a number of us have expressed:
>>
>> http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/isoc-letter
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>> You can make changes in-line, or you can make comments using the chat pane on the right hand side.
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