[governance] Internet theology

[Izumi AIZU]

Hi,

Thanks Ian for reminding the important point Kieren (and others) have.
I read them through this morning, before breakfast, and some points
are well taken, while I disagree with others.

I agree that we should discuss based on the facts first, and I made that
point yesterday, in terms of distribution of participation, etc.

I also agree that so far feedback system have not been sufficient.
And I also agree we should be really sensitive to the outside world, say.

However, I disagree with the over-simplification of counting the number of
workshops and number of participants. The stats themselves are
inconsistent, some years they counted the number of participants from host
country, that would result
very different interpretations. While some years North and South America
are separately counted, but some years WEOG was used to combine West Europe
and North America, and put GRULAC, instead of South America.

I also disagree that MAG as a whole are not caring these points and
controlled by a few. In the same context, it is an open consultation,
Day 1, but today's meeting, MAG meeting which were closed meeting
2-year ago, are now actually very open and there is almost no distinction
between MAG members and non-MAG members in this room, in restricted manner.

I mean it is our collective challenge to make IGF better and effective.
Blaming only a few, making kind of conspiracy theory and putting to the
web is, honestly very journalistic, but not so constructive IMHO.

izumi

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> governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] en nombre de Ian Peter [
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> *Enviado el:* jueves, 28 de febrero de 2013 22:29
> *Hasta:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> *Asunto:* [governance] Internet theology****
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> I did my best to follow the transcript of yesterdays Open Consultation and
> was rather frustrated by the content. Meanwhile Kieren McCarthy has
> provided a much more thorough analysis than I can here, which is well worth
> reading.
>
> http://news.dot-nxt.com/2013/02/28/living-talk-shop-bubble
>
> Let me add to these criticisms by pointing out the the growing volumes of
> materials to do with Internet theology. Internet theology includes the
> thorough analysis of text, placements of commas, and meanings which may be
> attributed to words in various languages in all of the various WSIS and
> post WSIS documents (hereinafter referred to as the Scriptures) . It also
> includes the decade of debates on the true meaning of multistakeholderism,
> and also on the true meaning of enhanced cooperation.
>
> I fear we have all become very inwardly focussed. This constant navel
> gazing may lead to total irrelevance of IGF.
>
> Good luck to the MAG in moving us onwards from here. I think we have
> become rather stuck (but please don’t make the theme Science and Technology
> and Development, that also is an inwardly focussed attempt to shore up
> relationships with a sponsoring UN agency).
>
> Ian Pete*r*
>


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