[governance] Sen Feinstein open to hearings on surveillance program

Riaz K Tayob riaz.tayob at gmail.com
Tue Jun 11 09:49:48 EDT 2013


Sincere apologies as discussed and clarified below.


On 2013/06/11 04:26 PM, Kerry Brown wrote:
> You assume you know my politics.
True. For this I unreservedly apologise.

FYI and going forward when I state *explicit/implicit* in the view it 
means how I read it from my perspective. That is, what is the political 
effect of your position.

>   You ascribe opinions to me that are not true.

As above. And again, apologies for not being careful in dealing with the 
politics that flow from your analysis in my worldview as distinct from 
what you specifically said.

> You assume you speak for billions of people.

No I don't. I presume to speak for myself but from within the well 
developed post-colonial analytic of Third Worldism (different from 
McTim's fyi). Arguing for universality of Human Rights is making common 
cause with billions of people who have rights to privacy.

>   You insult Afghans.

'We are all Afghans now' much like 'we are all blacks' is a positive 
thing: to be oppressed gives one rights to claims for justice. . . but I 
can see how this can be easily misunderstood... so apologies.

> Worst of all you assume as a Canadian I automatically agree with US policy.

That was not the intent, but on balance I agree that overall that is a 
valid reading. Unreserved apologies.

To be clear on my point:- an American solution (Congressional or other 
US oversight) to this in relation to Internet Governance will be 
insufficient for a Global resource like the Internet.

>   I am more than willing to engage in constructive debate on the issues. Your post was not constructive.
Au contraire. The tone and above points may have been out of order, but 
it was addressing substantive issues - asking for a broader world view. 
A view rigorously denied appropriate space on this list until recently. 
Even though you sometimes make common cause with people who seek to push 
Third Worldists around, you have decorum and I cannot apologise enough 
to you about the tenor of my response (not excluding the apologies above).

> It was condescending.

Apologies, I should be more on guard. But so you are clear... the 
politics that flow from your positions are fair game for analysis, 
critique and deconstruction.

>
> Kerry Brown
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Riaz K Tayob [mailto:riaz.tayob at gmail.com]
>> Sent: June-11-13 6:13 AM
>> To: Kerry Brown
>> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Sen Feinstein open to hearings on surveillance
>> program
>>
>> Could you please clarify why this is the case?
>>
>> On 2013/06/11 04:01 PM, Kerry Brown wrote:
>>> I am offended by this post.
>>>
>>> Kerry Brown

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