[governance] Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

And as a counterpoint I would appreciate your comments on this

http://www.zdnet.com/the-real-story-in-the-nsa-scandal-is-the-collapse-of-journalism-7000016570/

--srs (htc one x)



On 9 June 2013 1:40:45 PM "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> What this below appears to say is that the surveillance procedures are done
> within and in accordance with a broad interpretation of US law which is, of
> course, designed to protect the rights of US citizens (how well that is
> being done is another question of course).
> What it also says is that "foreigners" i.e. everyone else in the world are
> to be treated as potential suspects and are thus fair game.  Given the
> global reach and current dominance of US Internet corporations and the
> central role of the USG in all aspects of global Internet activities
> including Internet governance (or lack thereof) and of the US based
> technical community in all aspects of the technical operation of the
> Internet the implications of this position need hardly be spelled out.
>
> Thus, at least in this context we, i.e. everyone else in the world appear to
> have no rights and little protections except those that totally outclassed
> institutions such as the EU or other national, privacy protection regimes
> might provide to their citizens.
> Of course, since the parties from whom the data is being acquired i.e. the
> dominant US Internet corporations are not directly subject to any laws
> outside of the US and since they along with the USG and their civil society
> and technical community collaborators have been so active in ensuring that
> no such regulatory regime could be created, such protections seem to be more
> or less non-operational.
>
> BTW, I'm still waiting for an answer to the question I posed earlier to
> McTim and others re: the position and response of the "technical community"
> to these revelations.
>
> M
>
> From the Washington Post, just published:
>
> "Intelligence community sources said that this description, although
> inaccurate from a technical perspective, matches the experience of analysts
> at the NSA. From their workstations anywhere in the world, government
> employees cleared for PRISM access may "task" the system and receive results
> from an Internet company without further interaction with the company's
> staff."
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-company-officials-i
> nternet-surveillance-does-not-indiscriminately-mine-data/2013/06/08/5b3bb234
> -d07d-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_print.html
>
>
>
>
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