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<p>And as a counterpoint I would appreciate your comments on this <br>
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href="http://www.zdnet.com/the-real-story-in-the-nsa-scandal-is-the-collapse-of-journalism-7000016570/">http://www.zdnet.com/the-real-story-in-the-nsa-scandal-is-the-collapse-of-journalism-7000016570/</a><br>
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<p>On 9 June 2013 1:40:45 PM "michael gurstein" <gurstein@gmail.com> wrote:</p>
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style='color:#1F497D'>What this below appears to say is that the
surveillance procedures are done within and in accordance with a broad
interpretation of US law which is, of course, designed to protect the
rights of US citizens (how well that is being done is another question of
course). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>What it also says
is that "foreigners" i.e. everyone else in the world are to be
treated as potential suspects and are thus fair game. Given the
global reach and current dominance of US Internet corporations and the
central role of the USG in all aspects of global Internet activities
including Internet governance (or lack thereof) and of the US based
technical community in all aspects of the technical operation of the
Internet the implications of this position need hardly be spelled
out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thus, at least in
this context we, i.e. everyone else in the world appear to have no rights
and little protections except those that totally outclassed institutions
such as the EU or other national, privacy protection regimes might provide
to their citizens. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Of course, since
the parties from whom the data is being acquired i.e. the dominant US
Internet corporations are not directly subject to any laws outside of the
US and since they along with the USG and their civil society and technical
community collaborators have been so active in ensuring that no such
regulatory regime could be created, such protections seem to be more or
less non-operational.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>BTW, I'm still
waiting for an answer to the question I posed earlier to McTim and others
re: the position and response of the "technical community" to
these revelations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From the Washington Post, just
published:<br><br>"Intelligence community sources said that this
description, although inaccurate from a technical perspective, matches the
experience of analysts at the NSA. From their workstations anywhere in the
world, government employees cleared for PRISM access may “task”
the system and receive results from an Internet company without further
interaction with the company’s staff."<br><br><a
href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-company-officials-internet-surveillance-does-not-indiscriminately-mine-data/2013/06/08/5b3bb234-d07d-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_print.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-company-officials-internet-surveillance-does-not-indiscriminately-mine-data/2013/06/08/5b3bb234-d07d-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_print.html</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></div></blockquote>
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