[governance] FW: [IP] NSA has direct access to tech giants' systems for user data,

[Avri Doria]

On 8 Jun 2013, at 11:24, McTim wrote:

> oh wait we are against that as well.


Why are we against moving things to privacy and data havens like Ireland. Iceland and others?  I think it would be a great incentive for creating data havens.

Is it because that would be a market type force - voting with our data - and we must not ever admit that even market forces are useful sometimes?

BTW how many countries spy on the data that cross their geographical borders from outside their borders?  How many data havens are there?  And bravo to the countries trying to create them.

Oh, and yes in terms of the US (as I always have been) I am for doing away with the Patriot Act and the secrecy of FISA courts, though I do acknowledge that they were an improvement on Patriot Act without FISA courts and congressional oversight.  I favor all countries doing away with all geographical data borders of every sort.  But that is in the fat chance category, so I live knowing i live in a glass house, and recognizing that we all live in glass houses*, I am constantly shopping for curtains.


avri

Though some are just one way glass
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