[bestbits] [governance] Re: [IRPCoalition] IGF - and the corporatisation scandal

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

After reading anriette's email I think we should try to get a response from 
the local team on their specific intent before further criticism.

I still don't see how calling the mag and paul Wilson's ethics into 
question and attributing malicious intentions to the mag count as being 
'energetic'

That said, I do agree that if there is any attempt to commercialize the igf 
it needs to be stopped. There seems to be a lack of consensus on whether 
there actually was such an attempt and i see that the Indonesian team has 
already been talked to.

--srs (htc one x)



On 30 July 2013 2:12:38 PM Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
> Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>
> > In which case, though complaining to the list management, in my
> > opinion, has a strong smell of "running to the teacher to complain",
> > I am reluctantly compelled to request the co-cos to review
> > Parminder's posts on this thread
>
> As should be clear by now, nobody is going to get an official response
> to "running to the teacher to complain" type of postings.
>
> But it might be appropriate for me to make clear, in my personal
> capacity, that I have carefully checked the specifics of what Parminder
> wrote about that fund-raising doc against the document itself, in fact
> in regard to both versions of the document. (The differences between
> the two versions of the document are not relevant to Parminder's
> criticism.)
>
> Parminder's descriptions were accurate in regard to both versions.
>
> It is in my opinion totally appropriate to be alarmed and cry
> "scandal".
>
> If that isn't done, we should expect things to get worse and worse and
> it will in significant part be our fault for not having spoken out when
> we should have done so.
>
> The majority of responses in this threat so far have been either
> seeking to downplay the issue, or are attacking Parminder for being
> energetic in raising it, or both.
>
> Like Parminder, I honestly don't understand how on earth anyone can
> possibly care about democracy and not be alarmed about that
> commercialization process.
>
> If similar things have (on a smaller scale) happened at previous IGFs,
> without official written documentation, that should not be a reason not
> to react strongly at this point when it has been put in writing as an
> official document on the host country website.
>
> If this “civil society” caucus on the whole is of the opinion that a
> strong reaction to the scandalous commercialization trend is not
> warranted, and that on the contrary it is appropriate to criticize the
> critic, then I'm going to seriously doubt whether I can with good
> conscience continue to be associated with the IGC.
>
> Greetings,
> Norbert
>
> --
> Recommendations for effective and constructive participation in IGC:
> 1. Respond to the content of assertions and arguments, not to the person
> 2. Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept
>



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