[bestbits] [governance] Re: [IRPCoalition] IGF - and the corporatisation scandal

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

In which case, though complaining to the list management, in my opinion, has a strong smell of "running to the teacher to complain", I am reluctantly compelled to request the co-cos to review  Parminder's posts on this thread, especially the ones calling Paul Wilson's and the MAG / IGF secretariat's ethics into question.

That said, it is clear that the document is ambiguously worded - and I can see that people have drawn different inferences from it, ranging from display of logos in the foyer areas and recommending speakers for official ceremonies all the way to "cash for slots".  

This could well be a communication gap - I will certainly keep an open mind on this till someone from the Indonesian team clarifies what they meant.  Given Anriette's perspective on this, I perhaps wouldn't have used the "cash for slots" term given that the plenaries and workshops clearly remain untouched.

--srs (iPad)

On 30-Jul-2013, at 1:08, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

> 
> So we have it from two prominent civil society members of the MAG (as also earlier the chair of the so called Asia Pacific Regional IGF) that there is really nothing wrong with the document under question - the Indonesian IGF organising committee's official funding proposal. That is really disappointing and actually painful to me, for I take this document to be a frontal attack on democracy, and on the possibility that the people of the world could direct the manner in which the Internet evolves and is governed. 
> 
> But perhaps they may re-think their positions now that the MAG chair has openly disapproved of the document and disassociated from it, speaking of 'commercialisation of the IGF'. And the document has been withdrawn from the host country website. (I had downloaded it suspecting such an eventuality, and it is enclosed.)  
> 
> That an act of whistle-blowing on such a grave threat to democracy has faced the kind of aggressive reaction on this list itself is a comment on the health of the IGC, and in general the IG civil society..... Despite being posted to three civil society lists, over the last few days there has been no civil society  response to this outrage. The institution - of civil society -  that is supposed to be the watchdog against abuse of power by the most powerful seem to be acting more loyal than the king.....
> 
> I am travelling, and a bit constrained on time, but I will soon post a detailed response to Anriette's email, to which Bill agrees below, in which she affirms that there isnt anything quite wrong with  with the Indonesian IGF committee's fund raising proposal document. 
> 
> parminder 
> 
> On Monday 29 July 2013 10:57 AM, William Drake wrote:
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org> 
>>> Date: 07/29/2013 1:48 AM (GMT+05:30) 
>>> To: parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> 
>>> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org,"<,bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>," <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>,irp at lists.internetrightsandprinciples.org 
>>> Subject: Re: [bestbits] Re: [governance] Re: [IRPCoalition] IGF - and the corporatisation scandal 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This document has never, to my knowledge, been made available to the
>>> MAG. Other MAG members on these lists can confirm or provide contrary
>>> information.
>> confirm
>> 
>>> Has anyone actually read this proposal in full? Assuming it is an
>>> official proposal (which is just an assumption) it does not actually
>>> offer proper speaking slots for cash at all. With the possible exception
>>> of private sector sponsors being able to 'nominate' speakers for closing
>>> ceremony. As I said earlier, the MAG has not seen this document (unless
>>> I missed it).
>>> 
>>> But I don't see how this is a new model. Or am I missing something?
>> No you are not
>> 
>> Bill
> 
> <fundraising proposal IGF2013 - rev10b.pdf>
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