[governance] necessaryandproportionate.org (was Re: video available - Frank La Rue at New America...)
Norbert Bollow
nb at bollow.ch
Fri Jul 26 03:51:44 EDT 2013
Katitza Rodriguez <katitza at eff.org> wrote:
> The Principles are a legal toolkit based on international law, and
> does not use an outrage language because it seeks to use a legal
> language. It was developed (even before the leaks started) but was
> revised in light of the leaks.
Is there a possibility to revise it further?
I'm not saying that the document must use “outrage language”, but IMO
it needs to directly address the main cause of international outrage,
which is the US government's current blatant and near-total disrespect
for the human rights of non-US persons, together with the fact that
other countries are doing the same or at least considering legislation
that is based on similar thinking.
If that kind of thinking prevails, there will soon be no privacy left
anywhere in the world, since everyone is a foreigner from the
perspective of almost every country.
> I believe the NSA surveillance is in violation of many of those
> principles, btw.
The main problem is IMO that most of the text of that “principles”
document will be read as being only applicable in regard to
surveillance within a country or based on an agreement among the
affected countries.
If the NSA were to fix their practices with regard to persons in
the US in accordance to those principles, the problem of violating the
human rights of people outside the US will still be totally unaddressed.
Greetings,
Norbert
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