[governance] Towards an IGC Statement on RFC 6852 "Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards"

[Dominique Lacroix]

Hi all friends,

This so called RFC belongs to a war machine against ITU and really 
international organizations.
Even inside ISOC some voices are claiming that we absolutely need the 
ITU's good work in Development, Spectrum and Standards.
Neither ITU, nor ICANN, nor IEEE, nor ISOC are perfect. Let's aim to get 
better from all of them.
And first, that's clear, a consideration of the "no business - no 
competition" part of Internet. That's a minimum requirement from civil 
society.
And a consideration of worldwide cultural diversity.

@+, best regards,

-- 
Dominique Lacroix
http://reseaux.blog.lemonde.fr

Société européenne de l'Internet
http://www.ies-france.eu
+33 (0)6 63 24 39 14



Le 29/01/13 19:58, michael gurstein a écrit :
>
> I want to be clear...
>
> Do I take it that you (and others who want to sign on to RFC 6852) 
> agree with a statement of Internet standard setting "core values and 
> principles" which
>
> ·does not make provision for "inclusion";
>
> ·appears to take as its sole measure of assessment "market success";
>
> ·does not include as a core element, the Internet's role in supporting 
> the "public interest"; and
>
> ·makes provision for "competition" on and through the Internet but not 
> for example, for "collaboration"?
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org 
> [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:07 PM
> To: IGC
> Subject: Re: [governance] Towards an IGC Statement on RFC 6852 
> "Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards"
>
> On 28 Jan 2013, at 12:59, michael gurstein wrote:
>
> > This is a shameful and shamefully partisan and narrow document and
>
> > should be disavowed by any right thinking individual or group with a
>
> > commitment to the future of the Internet as a basis for the 
> well-being of humanity.
>
> wow!
>
> so anyone who does not agree that the document should be disavowed, 
> but who rather thinks we should work with them to expand their 
> viewpoint to include civil society is not a right thinking 
> individual.  yes as s civil society member who is a member of ISOC and 
> who participates in IETF (though never having gotten to close to the 
> IAB, though some friends serve and have served) I was disappointed in 
> its purely  business view.  but in general I think the sentiment about 
> technopolicy and its independence from government oversight was 
> essentially correct.
>
> Your absolute condemnations of all who do not agree with you seems 
> akin to name calling.
>
> As i praised RFC6852 for what it tried to do, though commented on a 
> few flaws, i proudly count myself among those who you beleive are not 
> right thinking individuals.
>
> avri
>


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