[governance] Re: RFC 6852: Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards

Milton L Mueller mueller at syr.edu
Mon Jan 28 17:48:12 EST 2013


I agree with some of Stephane's caveats; we have to be careful not to be drawn into the IETF culture's paranoia about ITU as that is irrelevant to the future of Internet governance. I also agree with Stephane that IAB often acts unilaterally to make policy pronouncements while at the same time wrapping itself in the mantle of open and bottom up standards making. 

Nevertheless I can't find anything in the document to disagree with. Since standardization is an essential, if not central aspect of internet governance, I also can't agree with those who say this is out of scope. The idea that calling attention to the way forces of supply and demand shape ICT products and services somehow disses civil society strikes me as the kind of insularity that keeps civil society marginalized. In particular, look at the principles enumerated in section 2: it speaks of participation, fairness, due process, transparency, balance. Why anti-market ideologues can make this problematic is beyond me. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-
> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Bortzmeyer
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:47 PM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Subject: [governance] Re: RFC 6852: Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm
> for Standards
> 
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:49:30AM -0500,  Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>
> wrote  a message of 62 lines which said:
> 
> > It is a good document.
> 
> No, it's not.
> 
> It refers only to business uses of the Internet, as if the Internet were
> not used for many other things. It was recorded as a comment by some
> IETF members <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iab/trac/ticket/193> but
> was ignored.
> 
> It calls for access to the standard documents but it is hypocritical
> since one of the signers, IEEE, does not allow it
> <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iab/trac/ticket/213> (ITU, the main
> target of this RFC, does distribute its standards online for a few
> 
> years.)
> 
> It refers to open and transparent processes but the IETF members
> discovered this document when it was already signed, and impossible to
> modify.
> 
> 
> 


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