[governance] Towards an IGC Statement on RFC 6852 "Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards"

[michael gurstein]

Alejandro, I'm not quite sure why pointing out that the organizations many
here point to as the foundation for Internet governance are promoting a very
significant statement (concerning standards) which more or less completely
ignores key elements of the foundation document for global Internet
governance i.e. the WSIS declaration
http://www.itu.int/wsis/docs/geneva/official/dop.html is "spite"...
surprised, disappointed, irritated certainly, but not spiteful...

M

-----Original Message-----
From: Alejandro Pisanty [mailto:apisan at servidor.unam.mx] 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:15 AM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein
Cc: 'Norbert Bollow'
Subject: RE: [governance] Towards an IGC Statement on RFC 6852 "Affirmation
of the Modern Paradigm for Standards"

Michael,

that sounds close to functionally indistinguishable from the motivation
called "spite." As good as any but worth the footnote.

Alejandro Pisanty


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On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, michael gurstein wrote:

> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:27:26 -0600
> From: michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, michael gurstein 
> <gurstein at gmail.com>
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, 'Norbert Bollow' <nb at bollow.ch>
> Subject: RE: [governance] Towards an IGC Statement on RFC 6852
>     "Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards"
> 
> I'll work with you on this Norbert...
>
> Contra Adam I think framing a letter here might be of significant 
> value if only to highlight certain of the limitations in those current 
> global Internet governance processes so highly praised and often 
> referred to by certain members of this list and others.
>
> M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
> [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Norbert 
> Bollow
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:10 AM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Stephane Bortzmeyer
> Subject: [governance] Towards an IGC Statement on RFC 6852 
> "Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards"
>
> [with IGC Coordinator hat on]
>
> Let's develop an IGC Statement on this RFC 6852 "Affirmation of the 
> Modern Paradigm for Standards" [1].
> [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6852
>
> I'll be willing to serve as editor if no-one else volunteers, but I'd 
> prefer for someone else to take on this role.
>
> Who would like to volunteer?
>
> Greetings,
> Norbert
>
>
> Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at internatif.org> wrote:
>
>>> It is a good document.
>>
>> No, it's not.
>>
>> It refers only to business uses of the Internet, as if the Internet 
>> were not used for many other things. It was recorded as a comment by 
>> some IETF members 
>> <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iab/trac/ticket/193> but was 
>> ignored.
>>
>> It calls for access to the standard documents but it is hypocritical 
>> since one of the signers, IEEE, does not allow it 
>> <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iab/trac/ticket/213> (ITU, the main 
>> target of this RFC, does distribute its standards online for a few
>> years.)
>>
>> It refers to open and transparent processes but the IETF members 
>> discovered this document when it was already signed, and impossible 
>> to modify.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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