[governance] today's Wash Post editorial

Fri Jan 25 11:17:10 EST 2013

In what, precisely, does the "yoke of US's oversight" consist ? May we have concrete examples, please, of the exercise of this yoke ?

It has seemed to me for some time that the obsession with getting rid of the Americans is a reflex built on a prejudice, rather than a reflection of experienced reality, at least as concerns Internet governance as such. 

The chances of reaching some sort of consensus on the future of Internet governance seem minimal if the basis for action is simply automatic dislike of American influence. Why should any US government, or the US public, agree to revamping Internet governance simply because there are those who resent America and the Americans ?

I'm an American and critical of US policies and actions in a goodly number of specific instances. Yet the kind of generalized dislike of America and the Americans so blithely expressed in the discussions on this list doesn't, however, "speak to my condition" (as my Quaker teachers would put it). 

Bests, Rony Koven

the yoke of US's 
oversight... parminder

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From: parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
To: Balleste, Roy <rballeste at stu.edu>; governance <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: [governance] today's Wash Post editorial

On Friday 25 January 2013 09:17 PM, Balleste, Roy wrote:
> Any legitimate model of internet governance that sets aside ICANN would 
probably fail.

Prof Balleste, you are completely misreading my proposal. It doesnt set 
ICANN aside, it makes ICANN the all powerful authority in the CIR 
(critical Internet resources) space, freeing it from the yoke of US's 
oversight... parminder

>
> Roy Balleste, J.S.D.
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On Behalf Of parminder
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:53 AM
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>
> On Friday 25 January 2013 08:05 PM, David Conrad wrote:
>> Parminder,
>> <snip>
>>> which I am sure can easily be sorted out by an alternative DNS
>>> security architecture.)
>> You'd probably first need to convince the root server operators that there is 
a problem that coming up with an "alternative DNS security architecture" (by 
which I presume you mean "alternative key management processes") would solve.  
This might be challenging.
> My general proposal assumes widespread agreement among an overwhelming 
majority of actors in the global IG space that the US oversight of ICANN is 
essentially illegitimate and must be replaced. (This is what I have been led to 
believe from discussions on this list.)
>
> If this assumption holds, I would presume that at least 10 of the 13 root 
servers operators (non US gov), whom I consider trustees for global Internet 
public, would be among such actors who ultimately seek global legitimacy for a 
global infrastructures. Indeed, I think even you
> (David) have argued that these non US gov root server operators are expected 
to take decisions in conformity with global public interest, and are not tied to 
the apron strings of the US gov, and its narrow interests.
>
> Even if these root server operators are themselves not so democratically 
inclined, I would hope that the moral persuasive power of the mentioned 
overwhelming majority of actors can turn them around towards seeking real 
movement towards what Washington Post described as " remaking the current model 
so that it can serve what has become a global infrastructure".
>
> Perhaps, we should start with a meeting between ICANN and the root operators, 
convened by public interest actors, like maybe the IGC, to kickstart the process 
that my proposal seeks to establish.
>
> regards, parminder
>> Regards,
>> -drc
>>
>>
>

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